Trump mirrors Hitler

[Molok]

If Trump isn't cognitively fit, then he's not even capable of being another Hitler.

No need to put Hitler on a pedestal, it's not like he is a Confederate General.

If Ajax was under the impression that Hitler was some kind of pillar of mental health, that's sad, it means Ajax won't even bother to learn basic facts about his biggest heroes.

[Some Schmo]

won't even bother to learn basic facts...

That is a requirement to register as a Republican and avoid being called a RINO.

Trumpism isn't an ideology. It's just another stupid American religion attracting zealots with sub-average intelligence.

[IWMP]

Google translate error I guess. I was trying to channel what people here might believe that Trump is thinking - that he wants a 1000 year American Reich - his father is German and everyone repeats over and over again that he and Hitler are kindred spirits, so the 1000 year Reich aspirations are probably true.

I doubt Trump is thinking that. He probably doesn't realise what he is saying lol or some PR person will be telling him what to say.

[ajax18]

So Democrats aren't feeling the same economy as Republicans? Or is it that Democrats would rather have an economy like this or likely even worse than see Donald Trump as president again?

What economy are you ‘feeling’, ajax?

Tell me about how your personal financial situation has been affected since January of 2021. Use real numbers, not vague generalizations or weird claims. Let’s start there. As a solidly-middle-class family example, I’ll go first.

On the ‘bad’ side: I paid a dollar more for eggs last week. Our auto insurance has increased regardless of remaining incident-free. Some foodstuffs have increased in cost but there’s no noticeably consistent increase in our spending for food because we just rotate our choices. Gas is more expensive, but at driving 500 miles a week, this adds only about $20 more to the weekly tab.

On the good side: our static simple 401K savings have increased 30% in value since that time and we have been able to increase our active 401K savings rate. Our pay has increased. We continue to reduce our house principal. Healthcare insurance costs have remained unchanged.

None of these, good or bad, seem particularly tightly tied to or strongly affected by any policy of the current administration.

Now, how about yourself?

ETA: in all fairness, I’d be remiss to not mention that Diet Coke - once a favorite item in our fridge - is no longer making it into our shopping cart due to its unreasonably crazy increase in cost. So there’s that. Not sure how Joe or Kamala caused that to happen, though.

Are you saying money is tighter but not due to Bidenomcs or are you saying that you have more buying power after four years of Bidenomics?

If things have gotten worse, what would Kamala do different than Biden has done? Or are you just saying we need more of the same democratic socialism for longer before we can see the benefits of democrstic socialist policies?

[Res Ipsa]

What economy are you ‘feeling’, ajax?

Tell me about how your personal financial situation has been affected since January of 2021. Use real numbers, not vague generalizations or weird claims. Let’s start there. As a solidly-middle-class family example, I’ll go first.

On the ‘bad’ side: I paid a dollar more for eggs last week. Our auto insurance has increased regardless of remaining incident-free. Some foodstuffs have increased in cost but there’s no noticeably consistent increase in our spending for food because we just rotate our choices. Gas is more expensive, but at driving 500 miles a week, this adds only about $20 more to the weekly tab.

On the good side: our static simple 401K savings have increased 30% in value since that time and we have been able to increase our active 401K savings rate. Our pay has increased. We continue to reduce our house principal. Healthcare insurance costs have remained unchanged.

None of these, good or bad, seem particularly tightly tied to or strongly affected by any policy of the current administration.

Now, how about yourself?

ETA: in all fairness, I’d be remiss to not mention that Diet Coke - once a favorite item in our fridge - is no longer making it into our shopping cart due to its unreasonably crazy increase in cost. So there’s that. Not sure how Joe or Kamala caused that to happen, though.

Are you saying money is tighter but not due to Bidenomcs or are you saying that you have more buying power after four years of Bidenomics?

If things have gotten worse, what would Kamala do different than Biden has done? Or are you just saying we need more of the same democratic socialism for longer before we can see the benefits of democrstic socialist policies?

Given that wages have increased faster than prices, most working folks have more buying power today. The price of eggs has been driven upward by bird flu.

The cover story of the Economist magazine this month was about how the US economy is stronger today than that of the other western democracies. The inflation spike was world wide, and we came through it better than other first-world countries.

[canpakes]

One could argue that the fact that this race is even close after the supposed job-killing policies, supposed crushing inflation, supposed terrible economy,

So Democrats aren't feeling the same economy as Republicans? Or is it that Democrats would rather have an economy like this or likely even worse than see Donald Trump as president again?

What economy are you ‘feeling’, ajax?

Tell me about how your personal financial situation has been affected since January of 2021. Use real numbers, not vague generalizations or weird claims. Let’s start there. As a solidly-middle-class family example, I’ll go first.

On the ‘bad’ side: I paid a dollar more for eggs last week. Our auto insurance has increased regardless of remaining incident-free. Some foodstuffs have increased in cost but there’s no noticeably consistent increase in our spending for food because we just rotate our choices. Gas is more expensive, but at driving 500 miles a week, this adds only about $20 more to the weekly tab.

On the good side: our static simple 401K savings have increased 30% in value since that time and we have been able to increase our active 401K savings rate. Our pay has increased. We continue to reduce our house principal. Healthcare insurance costs have remained unchanged.

None of these, good or bad, seem particularly tightly tied to or strongly affected by any policy of the current administration.

Now, how about yourself?

ETA: in all fairness, I’d be remiss to not mention that Diet Coke - once a favorite item in our fridge - is no longer making it into our shopping cart due to its unreasonably crazy increase in cost. So there’s that. Not sure how Joe or Kamala caused that to happen, though.

Are you saying money is tighter but not due to Bidenomcs or are you saying that you have more buying power after four years of Bidenomics?

I’ve reread my post and I haven’t said either.

If things have gotten worse, what would Kamala do different than Biden has done? Or are you just saying we need more of the same democratic socialism for longer before we can see the benefits of democrstic socialist policies?

You’ve either forgotten or avoided the question. Here it is again:

What economy are you ‘feeling’, ajax?

Tell me about how your personal financial situation has been affected since January of 2021. Use real numbers, not vague generalizations or weird claims. Let’s start there.

[yellowstone123]

A person really does one a disservice when comparing the two as credibility flies out the window. If one wants to compare Donald Trump and Joseph Smith then many can make the argument but really what Trump has done and what Hitler did - which is to bring hell to our earth - are not really in the same universe.

Hitler was one primary mover that resulted in the deaths of thirty-plus million people, mostly the innocent and the entire destruction of thousands of communities. The Bolsheviks were another.

When the good people who lived during that time speak about the Nazis they sometimes use the word gangsters like if Al Capone took control of a party, won a presidential election and immediately signed an order eliminating future elections.

Take the examples given below and times it by a million to understand Hitler and what he started:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Kolbe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Rose

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Landmesser

[Res Ipsa]

A person really does one a disservice when comparing the two as credibility flies out the window. If one wants to compare Donald Trump and Joseph Smith then many can make the argument but really what Trump has done and what Hitler did - which is to bring hell to our earth - are not really in the same universe.

Hitler was one primary mover that resulted in the deaths of thirty-plus million people, mostly the innocent and the entire destruction of thousands of communities. The Bolsheviks were another.

When the good people who lived during that time speak about the Nazis they sometimes use the word gangsters like if Al Capone took control of a party, won a presidential election and immediately signed an order eliminating future elections.

Take the examples given below and times it by a million to understand Hitler and what he started:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Kolbe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Rose

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Landmesser

in my opinion, the parallels are so obvious, one might think Trump kept a copy of Mein Kampf on his bedroom table. The most obvious is his demonization and scapegoating of immigrants. It’s almost a carbon copy of Hitler’s antisemitic propaganda. They’re “vermin.” They’re “poisoning the blood of our country.”

What is Trump promising? Mass arrests and concentration err detention camps. And that isn’t limited to “illegal” immigrants. He’s said he’s going to deport legal immigrants, people here under legal, protected status. That includes denationalizing current, bona fide citizens of this country. His immigration Nazi, Steven Miller, displays giant portraits of brown skinned criminals, holding his own version of the two-minute hate.

That’s so scarily reminiscent of Hitler, that one would have to be deep in denial not to see it.

Add his successful use of the “big lie” technique, his demonization of the free press, and his expressed admiration of authoritarian dictators, and we’re only missing the mustache.

Ever since WWII, politicians and opinion leaders have wondered aloud how the Holocaust happened in Germany and whether something similar could happen in their countries. What we’re watching is how an authoritarian demagogue hijacks good people into supporting the unthinkable.

Will Trump, like Hitler, bring about the unthinkable? No clue. But why in the world would we enable a candidate whose using the Hitler playbook?

[huckelberry]

A person really does one a disservice when comparing the two as credibility flies out the window. If one wants to compare Donald Trump and Joseph Smith then many can make the argument but really what Trump has done and what Hitler did - which is to bring hell to our earth - are not really in the same universe.

Hitler was one primary mover that resulted in the deaths of thirty-plus million people, mostly the innocent and the entire destruction of thousands of communities. The Bolsheviks were another.

When the good people who lived during that time speak about the Nazis they sometimes use the word gangsters like if Al Capone took control of a party, won a presidential election and immediately signed an order eliminating future elections.

Take the examples given below and times it by a million to understand Hitler and what he started:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Kolbe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Rose

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Landmesser

in my opinion, the parallels are so obvious, one might think Trump kept a copy of Mein Kampf on his bedroom table. The most obvious is his demonization and scapegoating of immigrants. It’s almost a carbon copy of Hitler’s antisemitic propaganda. They’re “vermin.” They’re “poisoning the blood of our country.”

What is Trump promising? Mass arrests and concentration err detention camps. And that isn’t limited to “illegal” immigrants. He’s said he’s going to deport legal immigrants, people here under legal, protected status. That includes denationalizing current, bona fide citizens of this country. His immigration Nazi, Steven Miller, displays giant portraits of brown skinned criminals, holding his own version of the two-minute hate.

That’s so scarily reminiscent of Hitler, that one would have to be deep in denial not to see it.

Add his successful use of the “big lie” technique, his demonization of the free press, and his expressed admiration of authoritarian dictators, and we’re only missing the mustache.

Ever since WWII, politicians and opinion leaders have wondered aloud how the Holocaust happened in Germany and whether something similar could happen in their countries. What we’re watching is how an authoritarian demagogue hijacks good people into supporting the unthinkable.

Will Trump, like Hitler, bring about the unthinkable? No clue. But why in the world would we enable a candidate whose using the Hitler playbook?

Res Ipsa, I think the parallels you point out are really there to see and are disturbing. I find myself making a comparison but If I do I also see glaring differences. I think Hitler had a white hot focus on a vision of the future and a vision for his country. In comparison Trump is meandering about playing authoritarian with no particular goal other than possibilities that present themselves. Trump's lack is lame but it might not be safe. There have been all kinds of bad authoritarians.Hitler is one odd sort. A big vision might not be necessary for a leader, perhaps he can stand swaying to the music asking for and receiving adoration of his followers.

[dantana]

I went through a bit of a dust up with Sub genius a few years ago when I stated that: (and rightfully so) the allies did not actively seek to assassinate Hitler because as a military strategist he was inept.

In other words, he was an effing moron. So, there's that similarity at least.