Thank you for this response, Dwight. Certainly when people are not immunized there's the problem of risk to the person but also to the population. I guess I didn't get polio because of the mass vaccination that was put forth where the disease was almost eradicated in the USA just like smallpox.Dwight wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:56 pmRFK Jr. went and capitalized on a medical mistake in Samoa with a measles vaccine being mixed with an expired muscle relaxer which resulted in two 1 year olds dying. The later reduction in measles vaccination led to 83 deaths. In Tonga and Fiji where measles vaccination was higher no one died, despite experiencing the same outbreak as Samoa. He has tried to distance himself from it, but he and his organization spread anti-vaccination messages in Samoa. They tried to blame poverty and poor nutrition, but studies proved that Samoans were generally consuming enough vitamin A and were not deficient (which is a risk factor for measles to be worse).yellowstone123 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:08 pmJust curious: does RFK want to eliminate all vaccines, like polio, measles etc. There were a four of five that were needed to get me into kindergarten in the fall of 1966. I hear there are something like two to three times that amount now. I did get some type of booster later on at the end of elementary school. What diseases did I miss getting by only getting those basics in the mid '60s. Is someone making money with those additional vaccines being added?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Samo ... s_outbreak
I had to get another MMR to go to high school in Utah in the mid-90s which was an added booster. Generally speaking though pharmaceutical companies make way less from vaccines than they do cancer and other drugs. As this board population is older can I recommend getting shingles vaccine if your doctor recommends it? I've gotten shingles twice, once on my mission due to stress and immunodeficiency and once stress and probably related to my immune deficiency, and it sucks balls. At least I only have numbness, my dad got it as part of his lymphoma and it he hurts every day and has had to carefully manage narcotics to function, and it took years for him to get to it right to where he mostly has a normal life, though diminished energy.
Vaccinations are a scientific miracle when you understand the horror disease can inflicted on populations. How about the bubonic plague in 14th century. How about small pox introduced into the Native American population and numerous other examples.
But then that leaves one question: if this is so concerning then why let millions of people who are not likely vaccinated into this country or have no records of vaccination. If the issue is an outbreak, I hope it doesn't happen for everyone's sake.
I hope that a mass vaccination program is put in place for those who recently came across the border who I actually don't want deported. If they are uncooperative or have shown to have committed crimes then deport them via due process of law. As to a family who had a business in Central America and came to the USA with high hopes with the whole wave of immigrants then no, because you don't want to make two mistakes if you can help it.
