Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

[MG 2.0]

I’ve answered. My response is seemingly above your comprehension level.

You failed to answer my questions. We are left to wonder why.

Regards,
MG

But you haven’t answered. You’ve deliberately avoided answering, and used lots of words to do so. You’ve tried to take the conversation down other rabbit holes etc but you’ve absolutely avoided answering which statement isn’t true. I completely understand why you’ve done so.

You are jumping around and up and down not saying anything, IHQ. You’re simply repeating yourself.

Are you done? You are going to wear yourself out.

Regards,
MG

[I Have Questions]

But you haven’t answered. You’ve deliberately avoided answering, and used lots of words to do so. You’ve tried to take the conversation down other rabbit holes etc but you’ve absolutely avoided answering which statement isn’t true. I completely understand why you’ve done so.

You are jumping around and up and down not saying anything, IHQ. You’re simply repeating yourself.

Are you done? You are going to wear yourself out.

Regards,
MG

1. The Book of Mormon was 100% written in the 1st Century or earlier.
2. The Book of Mormon contains unique written errors, verbatim, that were made by people producing the KJV Bible in the 17th Century.

Which statement isn’t true?

[MG 2.0]

Now you’re avoiding picking a statement. People can speculate as to why.

1. The Book of Mormon was 100% written in the 1st Century or earlier.
2. The Book of Mormon contains unique written errors, verbatim, that were made by people producing the KJV Bible in the 17th Century.

Which statement isn’t true?

1. The plates were created/compiled during that time frame. Of course we are also considering the time frame in which the Jaradite record was kept/compiled. The Book of Mormon as we have it was transmuted/translated…

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/transmute

…in the nineteenth century although it’s possible that it may have been edited and massaged previous to that. We just don’t know for sure. The fact that we find Bible in the Book of Mormon says that the text was a product of something other than transmission directly from the plates.

2. There are connections with 17th century language and grammar.

Now, PLEASE (for the fifth or sixth time) answer my questions.

If you fail to do so I will have to conclude that you are not an honest participant and seeker for truth.

Regards,
MG

bump to answer IHQ’s question. Whether he understands it or not is another question. Just one more that he may refuse to answer.

Regards,
MG

[I Have Questions]

1. The plates were created/compiled during that time frame. Of course we are also considering the time frame in which the Jaradite record was kept/compiled. The Book of Mormon as we have it was transmuted/translated…

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/transmute

…in the nineteenth century although it’s possible that it may have been edited and massaged previous to that. We just don’t know for sure. The fact that we find Bible in the Book of Mormon says that the text was a product of something other than transmission directly from the plates.

2. There are connections with 17th century language and grammar.

Now, PLEASE (for the fifth or sixth time) answer my questions.

If you fail to do so I will have to conclude that you are not an honest participant and seeker for truth.

Regards,
MG

bump to answer IHQ’s question. Whether he understands it or not is another question. Just one more that he may refuse to answer.

Regards,
MG

I definitely cannot see how it answers my question. It looks a lot like using a lot of words to avoid answering my question. My question is very simple and only requires you to pick between two very clear statements. If one is true, the other is false. I’m simply asking you to select which statement isn’t true.

1. The Book of Mormon was 100% written in the 1st Century or earlier.
2. The Book of Mormon contains unique written errors, verbatim, that were made by people producing the KJV Bible in the 17th Century.

Which statement isn’t true? 1, or 2?

[MG 2.0]

bump to answer IHQ’s question. Whether he understands it or not is another question. Just one more that he may refuse to answer.

Regards,
MG

I definitely cannot see how it answers my question. It looks a lot like using a lot of words to avoid answering my question. My question is very simple and only requires you to pick between two very clear statements. If one is true, the other is false. I’m simply asking you to select which statement isn’t true.

1. The Book of Mormon was 100% written in the 1st Century or earlier.
2. The Book of Mormon contains unique written errors, verbatim, that were made by people producing the KJV Bible in the 17th Century.

Which statement isn’t true? 1, or 2?

Been there done that.

Are we ready to move on?

Like…answer my question(s) as I’ve asked/begged you to do going on eight or nine times…lost count.

Should I repost the question again?

Regards.
MG

[MG 2.0]

Ah shucks, let’s do it again:

What I do know is that there are other things going on in the Book of Mormon that critics have not had satisfactory responses to. Stylometry, Chiasmus, complex narrative, shadows and reflections of the ancient world, additional archeological/linguistic evidences discovered over the years, etc.

When you look at these things as a whole…do you think a nineteenth century somewhat illiterate farmboy wrote the Book of Mormon?

Regards,
MG

[Marcus]

...My question is very simple and only requires you to pick between two very clear statements. If one is true, the other is false. I’m simply asking you to select which statement isn’t true.

1. The Book of Mormon was 100% written in the 1st Century or earlier.
2. The Book of Mormon contains unique written errors, verbatim, that were made by people producing the KJV Bible in the 17th Century.

Which statement isn’t true? 1, or 2?

This is a great set-up to make a point. Both of these are things asserted by or actually observed re the Book of Mormon, therefore, both need to be true; i.e. One AND two. But, they are in conflict and therefore cannot both be true.

This shows clearly the larger burden is on trying to prove the Book of M is authentic. There has to be consistency across statements, but, as drumdude noted in another thread, that is NOT happening and apologists are reduced to isolating each issue in its tiny argument box, while ignoring the larger picture of the very necessary property of consistency overall.

[Morley]

Ah shucks, let’s do it again:

What I do know is that there are other things going on in the Book of Mormon that critics have not had satisfactory responses to. Stylometry, Chiasmus, complex narrative, shadows and reflections of the ancient world, additional archeological/linguistic evidences discovered over the years, etc.

Shucks is right. Critics don't need to have responses to these. Outside of a few folks who engage in Mormon apologetics as a hobby, no one thinks that these things are really there.

When you look at these things as a whole…do you think a nineteenth century somewhat illiterate farmboy wrote the Book of Mormon?

I dunno, but it doesn't really matter. Anyway, it's more likely that a farm boy wrote The Book of Mormon then that it was written by some Jews who emigrated to the Americas and became Indians--one of whom then came back as angel and appeared to an admittedly unremarkable teenaged boy.

[I Have Questions]

I definitely cannot see how it answers my question. It looks a lot like using a lot of words to avoid answering my question. My question is very simple and only requires you to pick between two very clear statements. If one is true, the other is false. I’m simply asking you to select which statement isn’t true.

1. The Book of Mormon was 100% written in the 1st Century or earlier.
2. The Book of Mormon contains unique written errors, verbatim, that were made by people producing the KJV Bible in the 17th Century.

Which statement isn’t true? 1, or 2?

Been there done that.

Are we ready to move on?

Like…answer my question(s) as I’ve asked/begged you to do going on eight or nine times…lost count.

Should I repost the question again?

Regards.
MG

I apologise, I’m not as bright as you so sometimes I don’t understand your answers. Which statement did you pick as being false, 1 or 2?

[I Have Questions]

The book was written by many ancient prophets by the spirit of prophecy and revelation. “Their words, written on gold plates, were quoted and abridged by a prophet-historian named Mormon.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... ang=eng#p2

So the content of The Book of Mormon should, 100%, have been written no later than the 1st Century, ending with Mormon’s contribution. If it contains anything that dates after that, then it isn’t what it claims to be. In the 17th Century some people who were putting together the KJV Bible entered some incorrect content into it. They made mistakes with the text. We know that now, but it was not known at the time they made them. Those same mistakes made by people in the 17th Century appear, verbatim, in The Book of Mormon.

However they got into The Book of Mormon is up for discussion. The most obvious answer is that someone plagiarised the KJV Bible when they were putting together The Book of Mormon manuscript. What isn’t up for debate is that the Church statement about what the Book of Mormon is (see above) isn’t correct. What’s worse is that the Church knows it’s not correct. Yet they maintain and promote that incorrect narrative. They are lying. Joseph Smith lied about the contents of The Book of Mormon when he wrote the introduction to it.

But I have a proposal. The Church can amend their fraudulent claim about what the Book of Mormon is. I’ll even write it for them. “The book was written by many ancient prophets by the spirit of prophecy and revelation, and by plagiarising some of the KJV Bible.”

Alternatively the Church could remove the plagiarised content entirely. What it should not do is maintain its current dishonest position.