Are all Church Teachings Malleable?

[Marcus]

…said the poster who is now saying he wants people to be nicer to him.



On a more serious note. People asked MG 2.0 to treat grindael better, but he completely ignored those requests. He deserves all the poor treatment he gets as far as I’m concerned.

Here we go again. I think it’s time to now resurrect all those conversations to prove your point. Otherwise we’re going on innuendo. Oh, yeah, I called him a loser one time. I’ve expressed my sorrow for having lost my cool in that one instance.

that "one instance" ? BS. You constantly and personally harassed him in a despicable manner.

But boy, could he dish it out. And he did. We sure did go the rounds. I told him what I thought about his expressions and one sided presentations concerning the founding prophet. There was a war of words. Not arguing that.

Wrong. There was not a war of words. You used the same techniques to troll grindael that you exhibit still, of attacking the person, lying, obfuscating, stalking and trolling. You never refuted a single point he made, you only interacted with him in order to post inappropriate, evil, and vicious comments. You attacked him relentlessly.

Gee whiz, he was continually bad mouthing the prophet of the restoration. What would you expect a believer to do?

no, he posted his research. You behaved like an ass. Are you blaming your trolling on your religion?

...Be that as it may, that is water under the bridge as far as I’m concerned...

It is not. You never apologized sincerely. People remember, and you continue your same path of using lies, fallacies and personal attacks when you come here. You're the same troll you always were. I will never forget the night grindael pm'd me in despair, because he wanted nothing more than to share his news about a new publication and speaking engagement he had, and you were fouling up thread after thread after thread with your repeated and ugly harassment. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[MG 2.0]

Here we go again. I think it’s time to now resurrect all those conversations to prove your point. Otherwise we’re going on innuendo. Oh, yeah, I called him a loser one time. I’ve expressed my sorrow for having lost my cool in that one instance.

that "one instance" ? BS. You constantly and personally harassed him in a despicable manner.

But boy, could he dish it out. And he did. We sure did go the rounds. I told him what I thought about his expressions and one sided presentations concerning the founding prophet. There was a war of words. Not arguing that.

Wrong. There was not a war of words. You used the same techniques to troll grindael that you exhibit still, of attacking the person, lying, obfuscating, stalking and trolling. You never refuted a single point he made, you only interacted with him in order to post inappropriate, evil, and vicious comments. You attacked him relentlessly.

Gee whiz, he was continually bad mouthing the prophet of the restoration. What would you expect a believer to do?

no, he posted his research. You behaved like an ass. Are you blaming your trolling on your religion?

...Be that as it may, that is water under the bridge as far as I’m concerned...

It is not. You never apologized sincerely. People remember, and you continue your same path of using lies, fallacies and personal attacks when you come here. You're the same troll you always were. I will never forget the night grindael pm'd me in despair, because he wanted nothing more than to share his news about a new publication and speaking engagement he had, and you were fouling up thread after thread after thread with your repeated and ugly harassment. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Sounds like it’s not water under the bridge for you. I figured as much. In this world we often have to deal with such types. Often these situations result in an impasse if both parties are not willing to forgive and forget whatever grievances they had.

Even when overblown. Hard to get past someone who is still aggrieved over old hurts and carrying that burden. You’ve probably experienced that dynamic even in your own family I would guess.

All I can say is I hope you can work through it. Carrying grievances cankers your soul. Even if you believe you don’t have one.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

I think I’m done on this thread unless duty calls.

Others can have the last word…unless I have to defend my honor.

Please, no vulgarity.

Regards,
MG

[Rivendale]

That "one instance"? BS. You constantly and personally harassed him in a despicable manner.

Wrong. There was not a war of words. You used the same techniques to troll grindael that you exhibit still, of attacking the person, lying, obfuscating, stalking and trolling. You never refuted a single point he made, you only interacted with him in order to post inappropriate, evil, and vicious comments. You attacked him relentlessly.no, he posted his research. You behaved like an ass. Are you blaming your trolling on your religion?

It is not. You never apologized sincerely. People remember, and you continue your same path of using lies, fallacies and personal attacks when you come here. You're the same troll you always were. I will never forget the night grindael pm'd me in despair, because he wanted nothing more than to share his news about a new publication and speaking engagement he had, and you were fouling up thread after thread after thread with your repeated and ugly harassment. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Sounds like it’s not water under the bridge for you. I figured as much. In this world we often have to deal with such types. Often these situations result in an impasse if both parties are not willing to forgive and forget whatever grievances they had.

Even when overblown. Hard to get past someone who is still aggrieved over old hurts and carrying that burden. You’ve probably experienced that dynamic even in your own family I would guess.

All I can say is I hope you can work through it. Carrying grievances cankers your soul. Even if you believe you don’t have one.

Regards,
MG

Right out of Elder Scott's playback.

At some point in time, however, the Lord may prompt a victim to recognize a degree of responsibility for abuse. Your priesthood leader will help assess your responsibility so that, if needed, it can be addressed.

[Marcus]

...You’ve probably experienced that dynamic even in your own family I would guess...

Interesting. Your recent projections have really told us quite a bit about what you are dealing with in real life, and it sounds like you have a very difficult situation. It's sad you have to live with that, and it's sad you need to come here to escape, but it does explain why you attack people. You find yourself powerless in real life, and you try to compensate.

It explains, somewhat, why you constantly attacked grindael, but your request that all your past improprieties simply be forgotten is still ridiculous.

[MG 2.0]

...You’ve probably experienced that dynamic even in your own family I would guess...

Interesting. Your recent projections have really told us quite a bit about what you are dealing with in real life, and it sounds like you have a very difficult situation. It's sad you have to live with that, and it's sad you need to come here to escape, but it does explain why you attack people. You find yourself powerless in real life, and you try to compensate.

It explains, somewhat, why you constantly attacked grindael, but your request that all your past improprieties simply be forgotten is still ridiculous.

All I can say is...aargh. But wait! There's more.

Life is good at our house. We just had another grandchild born. A boy. My wife is helping take care of our daughter after our daughter had a c-section. I'm missing my wife. Yeah, that's tough. Not quite sure if that was what you're talking about.

You speak of trolls. Here is one of the definitions: "manipulating others' perception, thus acting as a bully or a provocateur."

You, even though I'm sure you've got to have better things to do (maybe not?), are continually...almost 24/7 it seems...stalking me. Yep, little old me (who knew I could attract SUCH attention?). An old fart retired school teacher, and here is this smart woman of the world that is literally stalking me.

I don't know quite what to think. Except it's a little weird. I sure as heck would not stalk you. Not even.

But when you're continually 'showing up' to "manipulate others' perception, thus acting as a bully or a provocateur", I find myself sucked into your vortex of falsehood, innuendo, and strawman builds. I've wasted more time with you.

The upside is I'm still able to exercise my God given right to speak my mind and express my opinion. Honestly? I think if you had it your way that would not be the case. I think that's why you stalk me is so that you can somehow/some way keep me from speaking or turn my speech into so called 'hate speech' . Yep, where else have we seen this?

Anyway, I'd like to see you disappear and find something better to do with your time but alas, here you are. Wreaking havoc among those that would just like to have a conversation. You go into attack mode and blow everything up.

There ought to be a board rule against that...but I'm not the one making the rules.

I suppose all I can say is keep doing what you do. It seemingly gives you purpose and meaning to your life.

Better than robbing a bank!!

Regards,
MG

[Everybody Wang Chung]

...You’ve probably experienced that dynamic even in your own family I would guess...

Interesting. Your recent projections have really told us quite a bit about what you are dealing with in real life, and it sounds like you have a very difficult situation. It's sad you have to live with that, and it's sad you need to come here to escape, but it does explain why you attack people. You find yourself powerless in real life, and you try to compensate.

It explains, somewhat, why you constantly attacked grindael, but your request that all your past improprieties simply be forgotten is still ridiculous.

I know MG in real life. He is sad, lonely and desperately needs some good, supportive friends in his life.

And you're right Marcus, it does explain why MG comes here to attack, lie and belittle. MG truly is powerless in real life. Coming here and attacking is kind of a cry for help. I truly hope things get better for MG and he is able to find some real and healthy connections in his life.

[MG 2.0]

Interesting. Your recent projections have really told us quite a bit about what you are dealing with in real life, and it sounds like you have a very difficult situation. It's sad you have to live with that, and it's sad you need to come here to escape, but it does explain why you attack people. You find yourself powerless in real life, and you try to compensate.

It explains, somewhat, why you constantly attacked grindael, but your request that all your past improprieties simply be forgotten is still ridiculous.

I know MG in real life. He is sad, lonely and desperately needs some good, supportive friends in his life.

And you're right Marcus, it does explain why MG comes here to attack, lie and belittle. MG truly is powerless in real life. Coming here and attacking is kind of a cry for help. I truly hope things get better for MG and he is able to find some real and healthy connections in his life.

Ok, this is getting weird. You would be an interesting person to actually meet in real life Mr. Wang.

Do you want to get together for lunch?

You can introduce yourself to me.

Help!! Help me Mr. Wang! I’m crying for help!

Private message. Let’s meet up. I am guessing you live in Utah. Maybe even nearby.

If I don’t hear from you I will have to assume you are a fraud (I think we’ve been down this path before…)

I’ll be waiting…

Really, I’d like to meet you. I’ll treat!

Man, nothing and no one surprises me anymore. There are some weird Harolds here.

Prove that you’re not one of them.

With the memes and pics you’ve been posting I don’t hold out any real hope.

Regards,
MG

[Marcus]

Interesting. Your recent projections have really told us quite a bit about what you are dealing with in real life, and it sounds like you have a very difficult situation. It's sad you have to live with that, and it's sad you need to come here to escape, but it does explain why you attack people. You find yourself powerless in real life, and you try to compensate.

It explains, somewhat, why you constantly attacked grindael, but your request that all your past improprieties simply be forgotten is still ridiculous.

I know MG in real life. He is sad, lonely and desperately needs some good, supportive friends in his life.

And you're right Marcus, it does explain why MG comes here to attack, lie and belittle. MG truly is powerless in real life. Coming here and attacking is kind of a cry for help. I truly hope things get better for MG and he is able to find some real and healthy connections in his life.

I hope so too. Thanks for the information, it's very helpful.

[Everybody Wang Chung]

I know MG in real life. He is sad, lonely and desperately needs some good, supportive friends in his life.

And you're right Marcus, it does explain why MG comes here to attack, lie and belittle. MG truly is powerless in real life. Coming here and attacking is kind of a cry for help. I truly hope things get better for MG and he is able to find some real and healthy connections in his life.

Ok, this is getting weird. You would be an interesting person to actually meet in real life Mr. Wang.

Do you want to get together for lunch?

You can introduce yourself to me.

Help!! Help me Mr. Wang! I’m crying for help!

Private message. Let’s meet up. I am guessing you live in Utah. Maybe even nearby.

If I don’t hear from you I will have to assume you are a fraud (I think we’ve been down this path before…)

I’ll be waiting…

Really, I’d like to meet you. I’ll treat!

Man, nothing and no one surprises me anymore. There are some weird Harolds here.

Prove that you’re not one of them.

With the memes and pics you’ve been posting I don’t hold out any real hope.

Regards,
MG

I love you man. I know you're hurting and that's why you're lashing out at people. I promise that whatever you're going through, it will pass. *Hugs*