Defining Progressivism

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Re: Defining Progressivism

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https://www.liberalpatriot.com/p/the-pr ... New Testament-is-over

Gunnar, here’s an article by Ruy Teixeira from October 2024 discussing the reasons behind the decline of the progressive movement.

It outlines how, for many years, the progressive movement shaped the agenda of the Democratic Party with their extreme views. However, now that Trump has successfully countered progressivism twice, it appears to be largely extinguished, leaving behind a group of socialists, individuals lacking motivation, and those facing mental health challenges.

He continues by stating that there are four main reasons why the progressive movement is disintegrating and was defeated by Trump on two occasions.

Point 1 Loosening restrictions on legal immigration was a poor decision, and it was met with strong disapproval from voters.

Point 2 Promoting a lack of law enforcement and tolerance for social disorder was a poor decision that voters strongly opposed.

Point number 3 emphasizes the importance of viewing all issues through the perspective of identity politics proved to be an unwise concept, and it was met with disdain from voters.

Number 4 would involve informing people fossil fuels are evil, and they must stop using them was poorly received by voters.

Gunnar, do you find yourself in agreement with Ruy regarding the four issues he believes have undermined the progressive movement? Your perspective on this article will be instrumental in shaping our understanding of the progressive movement.
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Le français est-il votre langue maternelle ?
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Molok wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:30 pm
Le français est-il votre langue maternelle ?
I believe he only speaks Trump-Latin. It's like pig-Latin but without any linguistic rules or the desire for honest communication.

Specifically, boar-Latin (or maybe bore-Latin).
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Some Schmo wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:37 pm
Molok wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:30 pm
Le français est-il votre langue maternelle ?
I believe he only speaks Trump-Latin. It's like pig-Latin but without any linguistic rules or the desire for honest communication.

Specifically, boar-Latin (or maybe bore-Latin).
LOL, good one Schmo.
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Molok wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:30 pm
Le français est-il votre langue maternelle ?
Il n'a pas pigé.
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That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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In today’s episode of Incredibly Stupid Games That We Can All Play:

S1; E1: This is MAGA

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There it is. Radical right regressives have taken over MAGA and the conservative movement. This is why you shouldn’t vote Republican; the party has been co-opted by effeminate man-children who dress nerdy and can’t even afford modern flashlights. And they’re apparently all craven racists.

This looks bad.
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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 8:18 pm
Gunnar, do you find yourself in agreement with Ruy regarding the four issues he believes have undermined the progressive movement? Your perspective on this article will be instrumental in shaping our understanding of the progressive movement.
Not in the slightest!
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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:52 am
Gunnar, do you genuinely think that the statement "To beat Fascism we need Socialism" will resonate with the American youth vote in upcoming elections? This movement is indeed a part of the progressive movement, right?
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I agree with democratic socialism and find nothing wrong with it. It is indisputably better than fascism and totally unregulated and rapacious capitalism that gives no serious thought to environmental protection and the needs of the unfairly and unfortunately disadvantaged among us.
No precept or claim is more suspect or more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
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Gunnar wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 11:49 pm
Hound of Heaven wrote:
Wed Apr 09, 2025 10:52 am
Gunnar, do you genuinely think that the statement "To beat Fascism we need Socialism" will resonate with the American youth vote in upcoming elections?
I agree with democratic socialism and find nothing wrong with it. It is indisputably better than fascism and totally unregulated and rapacious capitalism that gives no serious thought to environmental protection and the needs of the unfairly disadvantaged among us.
Most youth entering the voting ranks are pretty concerned with the way the American Dream is slipping away from them, as well as how climate issues are worsening. They’re not seeing WalMart cashiering leading to being CEO of the company as a believable life strategy. Republicans are presently seen as exacerbating those situations.
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canpakes wrote:
Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:20 am
Most youth entering the voting ranks are pretty concerned with the way the American Dream is slipping away from them, as well as how climate issues are worsening. They’re not seeing WalMart cashiering leading to being CEO of the company as a believable life strategy. Republicans are presently seen as exacerbating those situations.
That's how I read the current situation too.
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