The Book of Abraham Translated from the Papyrus, by Joseph Smith

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Re: The Book of Abraham Translated from the Papyrus, by Joseph Smith

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Moksha wrote:
Sun Apr 13, 2025 1:28 pm
Yes, but it also signals that MG realizes that those apologetic lies have been debunked and that some new outrageous excuse is needed, such as a serialization of a fictional story to gain readership for the Times and Seasons. Even outrageous excuses are sufficient as long as a snoring membership buys into it.
Of course MG also knows the Book of Moses was first canonized along with the Book of Abraham in 1880 by President Taylor. Smith never canonized it but published the chapters in the Evening and Morning Star and Times and Seasons as revelations from God. Do you suppose MG considers them fictional stories too? I can easily imagine Joseph Smith excommunicating MG for his apostate views and for publicly making a mockery of what Smith claimed was true.

I move that MG's name be stricken from the records of the Church and he be cast out!

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PS. I need to go back and read the thread:

Jeff Lindsay praises John Gee's book “Introduction to the Book of Abraham” as a tool to save his testimony
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Moksha wrote:
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MG does not tie the idea of "midrash or riff" as being the result of intentionally lying and dismissing the Holy Spirit. There is no way in hell MG is ever going to confess that Joseph was lying!
I think conceding that the Book of Abraham was BS is tantamount to admitting that Joseph Smith made the whole translation business up as a way to bamboozle his followers.

Dan Vogel would consider this a pious fraud because the end result was better than no one understanding the papyri at all, and it added to the world's Sci-Fi and Fantasy collection at that time.
Oh, I see. Joseph Smith's musings were a prerunner to Battefield Earth. Makes much more sense now. BS begets BS!
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Shulem wrote:
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The approach taken of asking questions in that blog apparently is one exemplified as, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."

In my own experience when trying legal cases to a jury, the jurors resist being told by lawyers what they should do before they have heard the evidence and come to that same conclusion on their own. Only after they see the light on their own is it persuasive to then vocalize that conclusion. You can bludgeon them with a club, but you cannot make them agree with you. Show them the way, and they will follow--tell them where to go, and they'll usually do the opposite.
Fair enough. I would love to see MG answer each of the six (6) questions you posed above with 1-3 paragraph explanations.

Do you think our Book of Mormon horse will drink?

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Ah, I see what you did there. Subtle. Yes, my folly was using a horse. So, it properly reduces to, "Do you think our Book of Mormon tapir will drink?"
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Shulem wrote:
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I move that MG's name be stricken from the records of the Church and he be cast out!
Whew! It's fortunate for me that you don't have any pull or influence over church leadership.

I think I'm good.

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Re: The Book of Abraham Translated from the Papyrus, by Joseph Smith

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huckelberry wrote:
Thu Apr 03, 2025 6:01 pm
A person might propose that Abraham just didn't know all of the details of Egyptian history and wrote just what he knew however that probably still leaves zosomus's comments as more accurate
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-z_NBEXxIU&t=313s

There’s a screen capture and link where the video maker claims all is well, nothing to see here folks.

It says translation. :|

How does that square with said Catalyst Theory. :?:

Anyone post comments on dude’s YouTube and receive a happy response. :?:

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Muhlestein's middle name is LIAR

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Kerry Muhlestein is a dirty Mormon liar with his pants on fire!

Muhlestein's paradigm of the Book of Abraham as it relates to real Egyptology is grossly perverted and designed to deceive ignorant people.

QUESTIONS

1) What's the king's *name* in Facsimile No. 3 and where is the Cartouche?
2) In what *year* or thereabouts was Egypt first established by Ham's so-called Book of Abraham progeny?

You dirty Mormon rat! You're scum, Kerry. And ur stoopid.

U liar!

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Kerry Muhlestein wrote:Image

My paradigm is true no matter the evidence.
John Gee wrote:Image

The king's name is poopoo.
Stephen Smoot wrote:Image

Please, someone change my diaper, I just sharted.
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Satan intrigues me.
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What's the king's name?

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This would happen if Gee or Muhlestein were to attempt to reveal an Egyptological name that is allegedly given in the characters of Facsimile No. 3:

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How about Smoot? What might he have to say?

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Smoot licks his lying lips in the name of Mormon Christ and Facsimile No. 3!

Smoot baby, ur stoopid.

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Shout out to Bill Reel and RFM for producing a podcast on the missing snout of Anubis:

Mormonism & The Snout of Anubis: Joseph Smith Loses Face

Folks, it remains to be seen what chicken-church leaders and dirty-apologists have to say on this subject. Crickets chirp and chirp.

Please refer to my signature thread in the Celestial Forum:

Anubis in Facsimile No. 3 and Mormon Deception

The apologists have lost the war with the Book of Abraham. It's over. The Church cannot maintain any semblance of credibility in defending the monstrosity of the Facsimiles and the text of the Book of Abraham, moreover, chapter 1.

Turn out the lights. The party is over. We won!

Mormon Egyptologist John Gee wasted his time and has secured an awful legacy in which history will be unkind to him because he failed to be true to Egyptology and tell the truth.

Shame on John Gee!
Shame on John Gee!
Shame on John Gee!

(repeated 3 times)

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Re: The Book of Abraham Translated from the Papyrus, by Joseph Smith

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Church and Gospel Questions Origins of the Book of Abraham wrote:The truth and value of the book of Abraham cannot be settled by scholarly debate.

Oh, but science and scholarship has already proven that Egypt was not founded by a woman in 2300 BC. That is simply not true. But the Church continues to feed lies to brainwashed idiots (Mormons) who think they have the Spirit® when in fact they are possessed by lying spirits that twist and distort truth in a vain effort to make the poop-stained Book of Abraham into something it is not.

MG, I rebuke you in the name of science!

Thou art corrupt and filled with a bad spirit.

You have no power here.

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