Trump and Harvard

[Markk]

cakes: Neither UCLA nor Harvard are ‘promoting antisemitism’. Both universities are being accused of not protecting one or the other side from their opponent. Both universities are being accused of ‘promoting antisemitism’ or ‘promoting anti-Palestinianism’ because the universities are allowing either side to voice an opinion. There is no acceptable position available to the university in your eyes, because the complaints from either side are exactly the same.

Nonsense, did you read and watch the evidences I gave you? You are dying on the phrase " promoting as a whole," which by the way I never wrote, and you again are completely ignoring evidences of the institutions allowing antisemitism and legal decisions they made that supports it.

If you want to argue now that the universities are also allowing anti-Arab bigotry fine, you can die on that hill also.

UCLA allowed anti Israel encampments, and allowed these protesters to block Jewish students access to classes.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vek-84EL94o

Here wrist bands are given to anti-Israel students, which UCLA allowed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9kPYF1iuyo

Article quote: A federal judge issued a preliminary injunction this week against UCLA, saying the prestigious school cannot allow Jewish students to be barred from accessing classes and campus.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ju ... rcna166529

UCLA allowed a Jewish Student Exclusion Zone, and limited their access to classes the students paid for the right to attend.

The complaint alleges the protesters created a “Jew Exclusion Zone” where in order to pass “a person had to make a statement pledging their allegiance to the activists’ view.” Those who complied with the protesters’ view were issued wristbands to allow them to pass through, the complaint says, which effectively barred Jewish students who supported Israel and denied them access to the heart of campus.

[Markk]

And what does that ultimately mean? Sometimes students from either side will make this statement if they feel ‘uncomfortable’ or ‘unsafe’, even if there was no actual altercation or action aside from perception. The article that I linked speaks to this from the Palestinian viewpoint, as does the article below:

https://medium.com/@aprresearchgroup/an ... f4a172957b

The article you linked speaks of peaceful protests at UCLA, that is just not true. As I just wrote and gave evidence of the protests were far from peaceful, and UCLA allowed the pro-Palestinian students to create a "no Jewish student zone," unless the pledged allegiance to their cause.

The article is just not true that the protests were peaceful. They weren't. If you have been watching the videos, and reading the article you would know that the article is not true in that statement. Your linked article reads....

The students {pro Palestinian protestors] at universities are themselves identifying and attempting to combat this form of racism with Jewish student protestors joining the frontlines and calling out “this attempt to weaponize antisemitism.”⁶ ⁷ This racism manifested in brutal attacks by pro-Israel pro-war backers on peaceful student protestors at UCLA.⁸

Which is demonstrably false. There was violence on all sides. None of it would have happened if it was not for UCLA's allowance of exclusion of jewish students and the encampments.

[Markk]

Cakes: Your stand, since you’ve committed to labeling the presence of opinions of certain students feeling ‘unsafe’ to be an indication that their university ‘promotes antisemitism’, now forces you to begrudgingly realize that you have to label the same universities as ‘anti-Muslim’ or ‘anti-Palestinian’. Then you post articles about how some universities are attempting to address antisemitism in general as proof that those same universities promote antisemitism.

The Universities are settling with students, and faculty that sued that the Universities, Harvard and UCLA that I read, created a unsafe environment. Again you are dying on a phrase I never even said.

Are you saying universities can support more than one type of bigotry?

If a University allows a non Jewish section of campus, for strict political reasons....how is that not a anti-semantic view?

[Markk]

Apparently, any time that any group protests in any way that makes another student feel ‘unsafe’, then - in your eyes - that university is promoting the bad thing.

Your position is nonsensical, and remains unsubstantiated.

Lol, have you read the articles or watched the videos I have given you? Your straw-man is apparent, and was knocked down pages ago....

The Universities could have stopped it, they did not, they allowed it.

[Gadianton]

Then you post articles about how some universities are attempting to address antisemitism in general as proof that those same universities promote antisemitism.

You're not dealing with the sharpest bear in the woods.

MAGA propaganda cannot align with either consistency or integrity, and exposes itself with its BS ‘antisemitism’ claims, while cheapening the actual history of antisemitism.

Not to mention MAGA platforms being rife with neo-Nazism. Holocaust denial being a conservative Christian fav, with Tucker Carlson as a recent recruit.

Here's how it works. If you're pro Palestine, you're by default an anti-Semite due for deportation effective immediately, even if a white US citizen -- UNLESS -- you're also an avowed neo-Nazi and white supremacist who is attending a Palestinian rally just to stir the pot and brew hate for Israel where you can get it. Then "there are good people on both sides". So long as you don't participate in such a way that directly messages against Trump personally. The safest is to be a neo-Nazi without touching the Palestinian controversy, sticking with the traditional means; then you're fine and welcome with MAGA no questions asked.

[canpakes]

You ducked my question again....have you watched and read the videos, and articles I have been giving you?

Given that you’ve ducked three of mine prior to this, you’re not in a position to complain. : D

(1) Point out the ‘antisemitism’ that is displayed on the Harvardfsjp page, and -
(2) Show how Harvard, as an institution on the whole, is promoting antisemitism.
… and:

Do you believe, like apparently others do here, that there is no such thing as antisemitism?

(3) Who here believes that ‘there is no such thing as antisemitism’? List these board members and we can discuss your claim about their beliefs.

[Markk]

Cakes: Given that you’ve ducked three of mine prior to this, you’re not in a position to complain. : D

(1) Point out the ‘antisemitism’ that is displayed on the Harvardfsjp page, and -
(2) Show how Harvard, as an institution on the whole, is promoting antisemitism.
… and:

1. I answered that, a question that I never wrote. My assertions were and are concluded via the hyperlinks in the original document and related searches as demonstrated by the different article and videos you refuse to acknowledge or even state whether you read and viewed them.

2. I answered that also, I never wrote that....it is just a straw-man phrase you parrot. I have shown you how the past president resigned for a very anti-semantic statement. That Harvard settle with Jewish students for not protecting them from antisemitism on campus, and that via the settlement Harvard was forced or at the least agreed to provide programs, which they did not have to combat antisemitism with in the Campus.

(3) Cakes: Who here believes that ‘there is no such thing as antisemitism’? List these board members and we can discuss your claim about their beliefs.

it is called being facetious, to accent the clear denial of folks here. The universities in question here have all but admitted that they allowed anti semitism on campus. They have settled cases and implemented programs, because of Trump threatening to take funding away.

Folks here know this, the can read, yet like yourself deny it exists.

[Gadianton]

? List these board members and we can discuss your claim about their beliefs.

As a bonus, any MAGAT can list any other concerns over anti-Semitism they've ever had in their lives outside of Palestine in 2025.

[Marcus]

This is an interesting thread to follow, but sometimes there are posts that just get ridiculous:

Cakes: Given that you’ve ducked three of mine prior to this, you’re not in a position to complain. : D

(1) Point out the ‘antisemitism’ that is displayed on the Harvardfsjp page, and -
(2) Show how Harvard, as an institution on the whole, is promoting antisemitism.
… and:

1. I answered that, a question that I never wrote. My assertions were and are concluded via the hyperlinks in the original document and related searches as demonstrated by the different article and videos you refuse to acknowledge or even state whether you read and viewed them.

2. I answered that also, I never wrote that....it is just a straw-man phrase you parrot. I have shown you how the past president resigned for a very anti-semantic statement. That Harvard settle with Jewish students for not protecting them from antisemitism on campus, and that via the settlement Harvard was forced or at the least agreed to provide programs, which they did not have to combat antisemitism with in the Campus.

(3) Cakes: Who here believes that ‘there is no such thing as antisemitism’? List these board members and we can discuss your claim about their beliefs.

it is called being facetious, to accent the clear denial of folks here. The universities in question here have all but admitted that they allowed anti semitism on campus. They have settled cases and implemented programs, because of Trump threatening to take funding away.

Folks here know this, the can read, yet like yourself deny it exists.

Wow. What a post.
'nothing I write means what it means, but everyone knows that what I really mean is true. I know everyone knows that, because everyone denies it's true.'

At least you are using this word somewhat correctly:
Facetious: "Treating serious issues with deliberately inappropriate humor; flippant"

[Markk]

This is an interesting thread to follow, but sometimes there are posts that just get ridiculous:

(1) Point out the ‘antisemitism’ that is displayed on the Harvardfsjp page, and -
(2) Show how Harvard, as an institution on the whole, is promoting antisemitism.
… and:

1. I answered that, a question that I never wrote. My assertions were and are concluded via the hyperlinks in the original document and related searches as demonstrated by the different article and videos you refuse to acknowledge or even state whether you read and viewed them.

2. I answered that also, I never wrote that....it is just a straw-man phrase you parrot. I have shown you how the past president resigned for a very anti-semantic statement. That Harvard settle with Jewish students for not protecting them from antisemitism on campus, and that via the settlement Harvard was forced or at the least agreed to provide programs, which they did not have to combat antisemitism with in the Campus.

It is called being facetious, to accent the clear denial of folks here. The universities in question here have all but admitted that they allowed anti semitism on campus. They have settled cases and implemented programs, because of Trump threatening to take funding away.

Folks here know this, the can read, yet like yourself deny it exists.

Wow. What a post.

'nothing I write means what it means, but everyone knows that what I really mean is true. I know everyone knows that, because everyone denies it's true.'

At least you are using this word somewhat correctly:

Facetious: "Treating serious issues with deliberately inappropriate humor; flippant"

Lol, yes, I honestly believe that denying anti-semitism by universities is a serious issue. I would love for you to join in?