2025 Looking like 2020 - Wonder What They Have In Common

[Jersey Girl]

Just crap on and throw away the law Honor. This isn't Trump's fault, it's Biden's and those that supported this mess.

No.

1. Congress (under Biden) created a bipartisan bill to secure the Southern Border.
2. Trump called GOP senators to tell them to vote against it so Biden couldn't claim credit.
3. They voted against it.
4. Trump started blaming Biden for not securing the border.

Pause.

1. Trump's ICE deportations are illegal acts.
2. Protesters are protesting Trump's illegal acts.
3. Trump called out the Nat'l Guard to lay blame on the protestors.
4. What Trump is doing is called gaslighting.

And you, friend, are falling for it.

If I can follow the events, see the patterns of behavior at work, and interpret what's been happening so can you. There's no excuse for your not doing so.

That's it. I'm done.

[Markk]

Just crap on and throw away the law Honor. This isn't Trump's fault, it's Biden's and those that supported this mess.

The absurd stupidity of it all. damned amazing.

You are a moron. Full stop.

[Markk]

Just crap on and throw away the law Honor. This isn't Trump's fault, it's Biden's and those that supported this mess.

No.

1. Congress (under Biden) created a bipartisan bill to secure the Southern Border.
2. Trump called GOP senators to tell them to vote against it so Biden couldn't claim credit.
3. They voted against it.
4. Trump started blaming Biden for not securing the border.

Pause.

1. Trump's ICE deportations are illegal acts.
2. Protesters are protesting Trump's illegal acts.
3. Trump called out the Nat'l Guard to lay blame on the protestors.
4. What Trump is doing is called gaslighting.

And you, friend, are falling for it.

If I can follow the events, see the patterns of behavior at work, and interpret what's been happening so can you. There's no excuse for your not doing so.

That's it. I'm done.

1. Have you read the bill?
2. Trump secured the border in less that two months using existing laws.
3. Have you read the bill?
4. Yes, because he did not secure the border, he let 8- 12 million unvetted people in our country.

Pause and laugh.

1. No, they are not, you have no idea what you are talking about. Have you ever read that statues in the US code, do you even know what the immigration laws are and what they allow? Are you familiar with the Act Bill Clinton signed in 1996 to expedite deportations?
2. No, the few protesters are protesting Trump deporting people here illegally....the others are thugs burning cars and throwing things, or trying to get a tiktok like.
3. No, Trump called the national guard in hopes to keep thugs burning down buildings in their peaceful protest, which so far worked, they are only burning cars.
4. No, what you are doing is called ignorant gas lighting, in that you have no idea what you are talking about or do you put the effort in to understanding what you are even typing. As an example one of the persons arrested in the raid that started the protests in LA was this guy....

Among those arrested was 49-year-old Cuong Chanh Phan, an illegal alien from Vietnam with a criminal history that includes a conviction for second-degree murder.

Phan was convicted of shooting up a high school graduation party after a dispute, killing an 18-year-old and a 15-year-old. Seven others were injured in the incident, according to DHS.

Is it a bad thing to arrest this guy and deport him, after he serves his time?

But start here. Here is the Border bill that you claim is the the answer....tell me what it was supposed to do given you have done your homework? What in the bill, that wasn't passed, somehow justified Biden letting in 10 million unvetted illegal immigrants, many like the person above?

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-con ... /1177/text

[Hound of Heaven]

Markk, You seem to be missing the full context of what's happening in this thread. Initially, consider the arguments presented by Honorentheos regarding the actions of certain progressive cult members are engaging in riots and obstructing streets. They attribute the blame to Trump, as well as to those who supported him, while absolving the actual progressive cult membeers of any responsibility. Their progressive reasoning challenges conventional logic and highlights the harmful effects that Trump derangement syndrome has on the progressive mindset.

Secondly, those on this thread who attribute the rioters' violent protests to Trump do so because, on a deeper level, they struggle to confront the truth. Engaging with the facts would compel them to recognize the inaccuracies in their beliefs. It is important to recognize that individuals such as Bishop Schmo, Honorentheos, Jersey Girl, Gadianton, and Chap harbor feelings of shame regarding their white skin and western society. They feel a sense of obligation to dismantle the constructs and values that have emerged from western ideals and beliefs.

Deep down, they despise their true selves! In their view, the rioters are seen as heroes, while anyone who stands against the actions of the progressive soldiers is regarded as the enemy.

[Hound of Heaven]

Just crap on and throw away the law Honor. This isn't Trump's fault, it's Biden's and those that supported this mess.

No.

1. Congress (under Biden) created a bipartisan bill to secure the Southern Border.
2. Trump called GOP senators to tell them to vote against it so Biden couldn't claim credit.
3. They voted against it.
4. Trump started blaming Biden for not securing the border.

Pause.

1. Trump's ICE deportations are illegal acts.
2. Protesters are protesting Trump's illegal acts.
3. Trump called out the Nat'l Guard to lay blame on the protestors.
4. What Trump is doing is called gaslighting.

And you, friend, are falling for it.

If I can follow the events, see the patterns of behavior at work, and interpret what's been happening so can you. There's no excuse for your not doing so.

That's it. I'm done.

Markk, the intensity of the TDS stemming from this post is so strong that it makes the content difficult to engage with.

Jersey Girl has good intentions, but TDS is affecting her ability to think clearly. Initially, Biden did not require legislation to close the border. Trump accomplished the shutdown in just ten days on his own, without the need for Congress.

Observe how she refrains from holding Biden accountable for keeping the border open and permitting millions to enter the country illegally, yet she criticizes Trump for attempting to rectify Biden's error. Once more, it returns to the individuals in this discussion, like Jersey Girl, who believe there are too many white people in America. They argue that permitting more people of color to violate immigration laws by crossing the border is justified, as they think a less white America would lead to a better living environment.

[honorentheos]

Markk, You seem to be missing the full context of what's happening in this thread. Initially, consider the arguments presented by Honorentheos regarding the actions of certain progressive cult members are engaging in riots and obstructing streets. They attribute the blame to Trump, as well as to those who supported him, while absolving the actual progressive cult membeers of any responsibility. Their progressive reasoning challenges conventional logic and highlights the harmful effects that Trump derangement syndrome has on the progressive mindset.

Secondly, those on this thread who attribute the rioters' violent protests to Trump do so because, on a deeper level, they struggle to confront the truth. Engaging with the facts would compel them to recognize the inaccuracies in their beliefs. It is important to recognize that individuals such as Bishop Schmo, Honorentheos, Jersey Girl, Gadianton, and Chap harbor feelings of shame regarding their white skin and western society. They feel a sense of obligation to dismantle the constructs and values that have emerged from western ideals and beliefs.

Deep down, they despise their true selves! In their view, the rioters are seen as heroes, while anyone who stands against the actions of the progressive soldiers is regarded as the enemy.

It seems someone is missing the context at least. You'll note the thread title and argument in both of my posts are about why civil unrest and the presence of the military on the streets is seeming very familiar. The situation itself is manufactured and intentional. It serves a purpose and from both your and Markk's responses it is clearly effective in accomplishing the goal.

[canpakes]

As an example one of the persons arrested in the raid that started the protests in LA was this guy....

Among those arrested was 49-year-old Cuong Chanh Phan, an illegal alien from Vietnam with a criminal history that includes a conviction for second-degree murder.

Phan was convicted of shooting up a high school graduation party after a dispute, killing an 18-year-old and a 15-year-old. Seven others were injured in the incident, according to DHS.

Is it a bad thing to arrest this guy and deport him, after he serves his time?

They arrested a guy who was already in custody serving 15 years to life?

[Kishkumen]

The immigration bill was a mess. Have you read it? Trump stopped what Biden should have and could have using a simple executive order and using US code laws on the books, in a month or two.

You are exactly one of those people I would expect to come back with "I can't handle complexity so tyranny is cool with me."

Instead Biden, or who ever the Gríma Wormtongue was, allowed 10 million unvetted people.

We all know who Trump's Grima Wormtongue is. His name is Stephen Miller.

It wasn't until Texas started shipping them to blue states did they say there was a crisis. And he still did nothing but sit on the beach and practice for a debate that was his bane.

I will give the fascists this much--they really have a knack for pulling the kind of theatrical stunts that stir up morons.

This is on him, he made the mess. 10 million in 4 years Honor. The cartels are in our neighborhoods down here, we are the ones dealing with it, apparently not you. Let me guess a gated community on the Wasatch front.

This is on the bad drug policies and absolute absence of effective immigration policies that our MAGA fascists trade on.

You just whine about what Trump does and have nothing to offer in regard to solutions to what illegal immigration has caused. Trying to blame it on a bill you haven't read is not a solution, but an excuse for four years of incompetence from Biden and the border czar Harris.

So, no choice but to go fascist in your view. Predictable.

[Kishkumen]

Markk, You seem to be missing the full context of what's happening in this thread. Initially, consider the arguments presented by Honorentheos regarding the actions of certain progressive cult members are engaging in riots and obstructing streets. They attribute the blame to Trump, as well as to those who supported him, while absolving the actual progressive cult membeers of any responsibility. Their progressive reasoning challenges conventional logic and highlights the harmful effects that Trump derangement syndrome has on the progressive mindset.

Secondly, those on this thread who attribute the rioters' violent protests to Trump do so because, on a deeper level, they struggle to confront the truth. Engaging with the facts would compel them to recognize the inaccuracies in their beliefs. It is important to recognize that individuals such as Bishop Schmo, Honorentheos, Jersey Girl, Gadianton, and Chap harbor feelings of shame regarding their white skin and western society. They feel a sense of obligation to dismantle the constructs and values that have emerged from western ideals and beliefs.

Deep down, they despise their true selves! In their view, the rioters are seen as heroes, while anyone who stands against the actions of the progressive soldiers is regarded as the enemy.

TDS, Progressive, yada yada. Rinse, repeat.

[Kishkumen]

1. Congress (under Biden) created a bipartisan bill to secure the Southern Border.

Markk's new argument seems to be that the bill was complicated, and Biden should have done what Trump is doing now.

Because that's working so well.

If you are a fascist like Markk is.