1 John 2: 2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:08 pmAccountability for sins that we don't fully repent of is not an unreasonable concept.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Wed Jun 25, 2025 4:30 pmSo the Atonement is wither Jesus doing half a job of suffering for our sins, or God demands a double amount of suffering for our sins.
What part of that accountability Jesus paid for is probably above our pay grade to try and determine.
And I'm sure it varies from person to person depending on how much light and knowledge they had. Obviously, accountability would be associated with that.
You may be more accountable than the next person.
Regards,
MG
What about that is unclear or above our pay grade to determine? Jesus supposedly suffered for all the sins of everyone, even if they didn’t repent and relinquish accountability. So absolutely the formal Mormon theology would have to hold that for the unrepentant he suffered needlessly and there is double the suffering for those sins. A very cruel system if you ask me especially when we speak of people suffering for sins like drinking coffee in the morning and having a wine at dinner.
As an aside I have noticed more than once you’ve tried to avoid uncomfortable implications by saying ‘it is above our pay grade to determine.’ Hopefully this pushback I’m giving here can help us reason through this rather than thinking it can’t be known.