Mag’ladroth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:24 pm
MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:44 pm
External evidences are few and far between for the Book of Mormon. There are some interesting corollaries, but not slam dunks. My intellectual interest in 'evidences' for the Book of Mormon rely more on internal evidences that I find quite interesting. But even at that, it is a witness of the Book of Mormon through the Spirit that the Book of Mormon has its roots/basis in revelation from God remains the primary source.
Regards,
MG
This is entirely subjective and unfalsifiable.
You're right.
Mag’ladroth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:24 pm
It’s essentially the last ditch defense of the Mormon Metaphysic when presented with solid defeaters to the claim.
I think that is in the eye of the beholder.
Mag’ladroth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:24 pm
That and word salad, shell games of “that’s not canonized doctrine despite literally all of our teaching material saying it,” etc.
I don't see honest discussion as being simply "word salad". It is true, fuzzy is the line at times in negotiating the division between canonized doctrine and conditional revelation.
Mag’ladroth wrote: ↑Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:24 pm
So I’ll ask you MG, if truth is that which corresponds to reality, why should I believe an alleged revelation in the Book of Mormon from a God who is passable, mutable, and unable to provide clear communication to mankind such that no evidence of this additional revelation exists? But rather nothing but contradiction of his prior revelation exists.
I think that "clear communication" is often the case as the restoration continues. I am also convinced, as I've been saying, that God is not standing alone. He is in the midst of millions/billions of independent and sentient human beings who respond on an individual level to that communication. And that applies even within the church where numbers are smaller than the larger world. God has no other option, really, other than to work with things as they are and hope for 'critical mass' that helps move the ball down the court.
If that doesn't happen the plays are ultimately going to fail. The ball comes back and a new/different plan is put into action. God, being the referee, gives the plays with the hopes that folks will work together to accomplish His work. If they don't, He can't do it on His own.
Those that say, "Well, God doesn't really need me, he could achieve His purposes on His own", are mistaken. The work of Salvation/Exaltation is a collaborative work.
God makes every effort to do 'end runs' around the opposition and often succeeds...but at times has to call the game and renegotiate the gameplan with those agency driven humans.

Or even at times shut things down until players are done bickering and fighting about one thing or another and are will to look for 'further light and knowledge' beyond their own.
Many are unwilling to do that or they purposefully want to play a different game than the one God is asking us to play. But yes, if we don't trust the referee or the coaches we're not going to want to play ball. Or we go somewhere else and play a different game.
Regards,
MG