LDS Church and the Problem of Anti-immigration

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Re: LDS Church and the Problem of Anti-immigration

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 12:20 am
MG 2.0 wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 12:13 am


Here we go! Latest ruse. Fibster!!

Coming from someone who I would consider to be the most prolific liar on this board

You're a hypocrite, Wang.
Fibster MG,

I've noticed you're starting to lash out in anger again at posters. That usually happens when you've been caught in one of your (too numerable to count) lies.

Usually what happens is that you take a break for a while to cool down and collect your thoughts. Might I suggest the same course of action before you sully what little is left of your reputation? Remember, by your own admission you are here as a missionary for the lurkers or anyone who might come across this board.

Right now, your dishonest, sexist and angry behavior is not reflecting well on you or your missionary efforts. Remember, people are asking themselves why would I want to belong to a religion that has turned a lifelong member like Fibster MG into a sexist, dishonest, angry little man.

You can do better. You can be better. I want you to be the best Fibster MG you can be.
Not angry. Amused.

If nothing else, you're entertaining!

You never know what's coming next!

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MG
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Re: LDS Church and the Problem of Anti-immigration

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The Church is caught between a rock and a hard place, with some members of the Quorum upholding the love of God and Jesus, and some still clinging to the white and delightsome doctrines that align with Trumpism and the Third Reich.

From Utah County to Flagstaff, Arizona, they are Trumpers. Hard to imagine the Church even has any Hispanic members left.

MG makes a good pharisaical case for why the Church is right on not speaking out for justice for all members. They need to obey the law, stay in their own country, or else report to the alligator concentration camp for deportation. The Gospel will not protect them from right-thinking action.
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Re: LDS Church and the Problem of Anti-immigration

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Moksha wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 1:14 am
The Church is caught between a rock and a hard place, with some members of the Quorum upholding the love of God and Jesus, and some still clinging to the white and delightsome doctrines that align with Trumpism and the Third Reich.

From Utah County to Flagstaff, Arizona, they are Trumpers. Hard to imagine the Church even has any Hispanic members left.

MG makes a good pharisaical case for why the Church is right on not speaking out for justice for all members. They need to obey the law, stay in their own country, or else report to the alligator concentration camp for deportation. The Gospel will not protect them from right-thinking action.
In practice, however, folks generally are not going around and asking those they work with or go to church with what their immigration status is.

At least that's what I've observed and been hearing.

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Re: LDS Church and the Problem of Anti-immigration

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 1:25 am
In practice, however, folks generally are not going around and asking those they work with or go to church with what their immigration status is.

At least that's what I've observed and been hearing.

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Wonder if the white Church members can pick up any cues? Does the bishop have this information.
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Re: LDS Church and the Problem of Anti-immigration

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Moksha wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2025 1:38 am
“the board virus” wrote: In practice, however, folks generally are not going around and asking those they work with or go to church with what their immigration status is.
Wonder if the white Church members can pick up any cues? Does the bishop have this information.
It’s clear the Church has had a problem with people asking members about their immigration status.
…the Trump administration’s crackdown on illegal immigration presses on, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is reminding its bishops and other lay leaders that they are not to ask members about their immigration status in temple interviews

That position was reaffirmed in a letter this week from the faith’s governing First Presidency to all general officers and local male authorities who conduct “worthiness interviews” with members desiring to participate in temple rituals.

“With enhanced enforcement of immigration laws in various jurisdictions, we have received inquiries from priesthood leaders about temple recommend interview questions,” states the April 24 letter signed by church President Russell M. Nelson and his two counselors. “We remind those conducting temple recommend interviews that under established policy, local leaders are to ask only the temple recommend questions as currently constituted.”
There was a thread recently where we discussed if being an illegal immigrant rendered an individual unworthy of a temple recommend. It’s not clear cut. The Church is instructing Bishops that this falls under the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” protocols.
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