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Marcus wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:13 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:00 pm
Your reasoning is irrelevant. Dr. Shades's instruction is.
You’ve been specifically asked by the owner of the board to change how you post, your response has been to give him the middle finger.
And to project his own thought process--"Methinks we are observing another strategy being used to act as a cover for presenting bad information and/or bad arguments."

Wow. He regularly projects, but that is an incredibly specific projection.
No. Take it as it was said. Clear and precise meaning.

Can you do that? :lol:

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This thread has derailed. I'm done here unless the OP topic is reignited. Or at least something interesting!

These side issues that are SO important to so VERY few nit pickers are not of enough interest for everyone else to have to muddle their way through.

At least I would suspect this is so.

Thanks.

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I Have Questions wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:18 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:16 pm
No. That's not what I'm doing. I believe that my punctuation use is just fine.
What you believe is irrelevant. What Dr. Shades has requested is relevant. Why can’t you simply obey his request?
I think this is systemic in Mormonism and it starts with top leaders. Tim Kosnoff is an attorney who made a career of suing the church over SA cases. He was asked why the church repeatedly took a course of action that was detrimental to either their legal strategies or wide spread PR issues and he simply said the church has a deeply ingrained culture of refusing to be told what to do.
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Rivendale wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:03 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:18 pm
What you believe is irrelevant. What Dr Shades has requested is relevant. Why can’t you simply obey his request?
I think this is systemic in Mormonism and it starts with top leaders. Tim Kosnoff is an attorney who made a career of suing the church over SA cases. He was asked why the church repeatedly took a course of action that was detrimental to either their legal strategies or wide spread PR issues and he simply said the church has a deeply ingrained culture of refusing to be told what to do.
I think that’s a valuable insight that is worth remembering.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: Complex?

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I Have Questions wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:18 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:16 pm
No. That's not what I'm doing. I believe that my punctuation use is just fine.
What you believe is irrelevant. What Dr. Shades has requested is relevant. Why can’t you simply obey his request?
The idea of cabin fever comes to mind. Otherwise the utterly boring obsession about MG is difficult to relate to.
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I Have Questions wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:29 pm
Rivendale wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:03 pm
I think this is systemic in Mormonism and it starts with top leaders. Tim Kosnoff is an attorney who made a career of suing the church over SA cases. He was asked why the church repeatedly took a course of action that was detrimental to either their legal strategies or wide spread PR issues and he simply said the church has a deeply ingrained culture of refusing to be told what to do.
I think that’s a valuable insight that is worth remembering.
I'm assuming you are making a direct corrallary to my questioning 'period gate'. Amazing. You are now saying that because I don't bow my head and say "Yes!", that I am somehow deficient in that I am questioning conformity to something that I see as questionable?

Folks, this is interesting. And a little scary.

Just obey, IHQ says. "Why can't you just obey?'

Think about this.

Of course, what we are listening to is someone out of the UK. That might help explain things. :lol:

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Re: Complex?

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huckelberry wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:07 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:18 pm
What you believe is irrelevant. What Dr. Shades has requested is relevant. Why can’t you simply obey his request?
The idea of cabin fever comes to mind. Otherwise the utterly boring obsession about MG is difficult to relate to.
Ya' think? I REALLY wish some folks would literally ignore me.

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huckelberry wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:07 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:18 pm
What you believe is irrelevant. What Dr. Shades has requested is relevant. Why can’t you simply obey his request?
The idea of cabin fever comes to mind. Otherwise the utterly boring obsession about MG is difficult to relate to.
Huck, in your view, then, is it better for us all to simply allow MG to break rules, and to ignore direct requests from Dr. Shades?

How about other posters? Do we all get to do the same?
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malkie wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 8:19 pm
huckelberry wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:07 pm
The idea of cabin fever comes to mind. Otherwise the utterly boring obsession about MG is difficult to relate to.
Huck, in your view, then, is it better for us all to simply allow MG to break rules, and to ignore direct requests from Dr. Shades?

How about other posters? Do we all get to do the same?
I think we all understand the letter and spirit of the law in regards to A.I. and hit and run links.

If you're referring to 'period gate', yeah...for reasons given...I am questioning what's going on with that.

Where do you draw the line? Literally. Where does one line begin and the other/next one start?

My gosh, the moderators could have a heyday with any one poster they decide to jump on.

Who's going to be the 'period police'? :lol:

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Re: Complex?

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 9:26 pm
malkie wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 8:19 pm
Huck, in your view, then, is it better for us all to simply allow MG to break rules, and to ignore direct requests from Dr. Shades?

How about other posters? Do we all get to do the same?
I think we all understand the letter and spirit of the law in regards to A.I. and hit and run links.

If you're referring to 'period gate', yeah...for reasons given...I am questioning what's going on with that.

Where do you draw the line? Literally. Where does one line begin and the other/next one start?

My gosh, the moderators could have a heyday with any one poster they decide to jump on.

Who's going to be the 'period police'? :lol:

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No - I'm not referring specifically to "period gate". My comment was as specific as I wanted it to be - which is, not very.

I don't think that it's necessary for us to imagine a world in which the mods hound one poor poster over every little real/imagined infraction, in order to suggest that a discussion board is likely to run better when everyone agrees to adhere to the rules, including perhaps some rules that particular posters don't like. Nor do I think that it's unreasonable to expect that direct requests from the board owner be respected.

Are you seriously afraid that the mods here are all going to decide to jump on one poster. And that that poster is you? If so, I believe that history here does not support your fear.

To answer your question about lines, my second paragraph describes pretty much where I draw the line, and I believe that it's a reasonable place to do so. YMMV. I'm not at all suggesting that every "line" here is perfect, or that some are not inconvenient at times. But I think that Dr Shades and the mods are fair, and reasonable, and that we're lucky to have such a place to converse. Again, YMMV.

As my favourite poet says:
Piet Hein wrote:ON PROBLEMS

Our choicest plans have fallen through,
our airiest castles tumbled over,
because of lines we neatly drew
and later neatly stumbled over.”
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