Excellent takedown of Mopologist DNA misinformation

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Re: Excellent takedown of Mopologist DNA misinformation

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Marcus wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 9:57 am
malkie wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 7:26 am
If I recall correctly, this was a specific instruction to/about MG from Dr Shades, out of frustration, because of MG's constant abuse of the several iterations of the AI rule that Shades wrote to try to cover potential future abuses. You can find the original at viewtopic.php?p=2901416#p2901416

Of course, MG is playing the innocent now, pretending that he never saw the original ...
This is what MG does, huckelberry. in my opinion, he's pleased to have 'upset the apple cart' because that's just another one of his folksy euphemisms for his obnoxious activity of trolling a discussion board. He tried many, many times to cheat the rule, even though it was very clearly explained, repeatedly. It defies logic that he now pretends not to understand, and that he now gives a new 'explanation' that is not true at all. The only way, in my opinion, to understand what he is doing is to recognize that he takes some sort of perverted pleasure in attempting to disrupt, to provoke, and to derail conversations.

Malkie's link above is worth looking at, Shades is extremely clear about why he uses the language he does:
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Sat Jul 19, 2025 6:45 am
NO.

Although everyone else would be able to work with that, MG 2.0 has proven himself unable. Therefore, Malkie, for the love of God and all of His holy angels, DO NOT LEAD MG 2.0 INTO TEMPTATION.

To wit, From this point forward, DO NOT COME UP WITH WAYS FOR MG 2.0 TO USE A.I. LEGITIMATELY.

Let this be your eternal rule of thumb: As far as MG 2.0 is concerned, A.I. does not exist and never did exist. He has never heard of it in his life, nor will he ever. Not from you, not from anyone.
It is extremely dishonest for MG 2.0 to now make the statements that you responded to, when he knows full well he is not accurately stating the problem. You're a nice and sincere person, and he took advantage of that and suckered you with his trolling. It always surprises me at how casually he lies given the religious beliefs he regularly touts, but he uses these lies exactly like a classic troll who is trying to provoke and disrupt.
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Re: Excellent takedown of Mopologist DNA misinformation

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I Have Questions wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 7:35 am
huckelberry wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 8:48 pm

MG.

If AI helped you find important information about the DNA question do you not feel you have an obligation to present it? The AI rule says you would have to understand the finding well enough to present the information or ideas in your own sentences. That may be a touch of bother but you are happy to post quite a few sentences here so you do have the time to do this if it is worth much.
The only reason MG 2.0 wants to utilise A.I. Is because he’s lazy. MG 2.0 could use the internet for himself. Find quotes from some of those geneticists that he’s mentioned that he thinks offers a rebuttal to the points that Southerton makes, quote them on here, with proper links, and an explanation of why he thinks the rebuttals are valid. He hasn’t done that because he’s too damn lazy to bother.
IHQ, it's not a matter of "laziness". It's a matter of time and energy. Months back I mentioned that I needed/wanted to spend less time on this board. There are other things that are MUCH more important to me than hanging around in these parts. Going through every post by critics such as yourself who are prolific in their postings of new material and spend their days doing so would be a Herculean task. In order to actually stand a chance of responding adequately to partial truths or outright falsehoods I found A.I. a VERY useful tool to expedite responses so I could move on to 'real life'. I honestly don't want to invest all the time necessary to assimilate A.I. research on every topic and then post the regurgitated information. As it was, I used A.I. and then added additional commentary many times.

As it is, you and others now have the 'rule of the roost' and can post about whatever you want to without any proof checking by alternate sources of information. THAT is why I believe A.I. was strictly outlawed despite all the whining and even swearing to the contrary.

It is what it is. One man cannot stand up against 'the machine'. The machine being the overwhelming influence of the critics and moderators/administration/owner of this board. You have had and will continue to have your way along with Marcus and others. Even my words in this post will be twisted to mean something other than what I'm actually saying and I will simply be called out as a 'troll' again by Marcus. What a joke. She is the ultimate troll and gets away with it consistently without ANYONE calling her out. I hope lurkers can see all of this for what it is.

It's actually disgusting.

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That's some great missionary work, MG.

You’re right, it’s truly a tragedy that the ‘machine’ of people who prefer original thought and actual human interaction has triumphed over your innovative approach of outsourcing your online arguments to a chatbot. Perhaps if AI could generate sufficient outrage, you'd have stood a chance, but alas, the algorithms aren’t quite there yet. And as for Marcus being a troll, well, that's just a classic case of projection, isn't it? The lurkers are definitely seeing it, just perhaps not in the way you envision.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 4:54 pm
That's some great missionary work, MG.

You’re right, it’s truly a tragedy that the ‘machine’ of people who prefer original thought and actual human interaction has triumphed over your innovative approach of outsourcing your online arguments to a chatbot. Perhaps if AI could generate sufficient outrage, you'd have stood a chance, but alas, the algorithms aren’t quite there yet. And as for Marcus being a troll, well, that's just a classic case of projection, isn't it? The lurkers are definitely seeing it, just perhaps not in the way you envision.
You do have your own view of things. That should be honored along with opposing views, right? Personally, I think if you give my last post some honest thought/introspection you will see that my post does make some important contributions to this ongoing conversation.

Yes, I was quite blunt. ;)

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 4:40 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 7:35 am
The only reason MG 2.0 wants to utilise A.I. Is because he’s lazy. MG 2.0 could use the internet for himself. Find quotes from some of those geneticists that he’s mentioned that he thinks offers a rebuttal to the points that Southerton makes, quote them on here, with proper links, and an explanation of why he thinks the rebuttals are valid. He hasn’t done that because he’s too damn lazy to bother.
IHQ, it's not a matter of "laziness". It's a matter of time and energy. Months back I mentioned that I needed/wanted to spend less time on this board.
:lol: said the prolific poster who is too damn lazy to post a proper contribution to the board but spams every single thread. You’re too damn lazy.

Note: MG 2.0 the poster who needed to spend less time on this board, is nearly up to 6,300 posts. In fact his posting rate (of cheap, unresearched, “spam” contributions) has accelerated!

Post some quotes in rebuttal of Southerton from those sources you muttered something about. Or don’t, just continue with being a lazy poster.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: Excellent takedown of Mopologist DNA misinformation

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I Have Questions wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 6:05 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 4:40 pm
IHQ, it's not a matter of "laziness". It's a matter of time and energy. Months back I mentioned that I needed/wanted to spend less time on this board.
:lol: said the prolific poster who is too damn lazy to post a proper contribution to the board but spams every single thread. You’re too damn lazy.

Note: MG 2.0 the poster who needed to spend less time on this board, is nearly up to 6,300 posts. In fact his posting rate (of cheap, unresearched, “spam” contributions) has accelerated!

Post some quotes in rebuttal of Southerton from those sources you muttered something about. Or don’t, just continue with being a lazy poster.
More of the same. From the person that doesn't answer ANY questions. And you didn't even respond to the 'meat' of my post having to do with A.I. and expedited responses to your prolific and frequent posts.

Yep, I've spent WAY to much time and too many posts responding to your rather jaundiced and biased posts. And you're asking me to spend MORE time to act as a buffer between your falsehoods and something more closely approximating the truth?

As I mentioned, you will have your way on this board. I can't keep up with your volume unless I have additional resources and help. A.I. provided an excellent means/way to do that. You apparently want me to actually spend MORE time counteracting the critics such as yourself. I can't do that.

In regards to what I had gathered in regards to counteracting your 'glowing' remarks in regards to Simon Southerton, this is just one of many examples in which I could have actually posted information which directly counters your false or partially untrue comments. And save so much time in doing so. But you won't have anything of it.

You simply call out "lazy!" BS.

That says something more about you, not me. Anyway, I've said what I said and stick to it...as if it really matters around here. Keep on truckin' IHQ. I think I've figured out why you post so much on this board.

It's a free for all with no guardrails. And now you've pushed for and succeeded in doing away with one of the more potentially useful and important guardrails.

Information. More, rather than less. You now have free reign. I can't spend the necessary time that you are asking me to in order to counteract your frequent bombardment of one sided and biased contributions to the board. In suppose that in this sense, you win.

Congratulations. You've gotten what you want. I just hope you can sleep at night. And again, you don't have to answer any questions yourself!

What a gig.

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 6:40 pm
It's a free for all with no guardrails. And now you've pushed for and succeeded in doing away with one of the more potentially useful and important guardrails.

Information. More, rather than less. You now have free reign. I can't spend the necessary time that you are asking me to in order to counteract your frequent bombardment of one sided and biased contributions to the board. In suppose that in this sense, you win.

Congratulations. You've gotten what you want. I just hope you can sleep at night. And again, you don't have to answer any questions yourself!

What a gig.
MG,

Sweet dreams young prince, and don't let the cognitive dissonance bite! Congratulations on finally realizing that you're out of steam. This is truly a win.

If your 'one-sided and biased contributions' are causing you this much distress, imagine the sheer exhaustion of having to craft compelling arguments. It's a tough job, but someone's got to do it... just apparently not you.

That's some great missionary work, MG.
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Re: Excellent takedown of Mopologist DNA misinformation

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 7:03 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 6:40 pm
It's a free for all with no guardrails. And now you've pushed for and succeeded in doing away with one of the more potentially useful and important guardrails.

Information. More, rather than less. You now have free reign. I can't spend the necessary time that you are asking me to in order to counteract your frequent bombardment of one sided and biased contributions to the board. In suppose that in this sense, you win.

Congratulations. You've gotten what you want. I just hope you can sleep at night. And again, you don't have to answer any questions yourself!

What a gig.
MG,

Sweet dreams young prince, and don't let the cognitive dissonance bite! Congratulations on finally realizing that you're out of steam. This is truly a win.

If your 'one-sided and biased contributions' are causing you this much distress, imagine the sheer exhaustion of having to craft compelling arguments. It's a tough job, but someone's got to do it... just apparently not you.

That's some great missionary work, MG.
Oh, I didn't say I was out of steam. I'm simply recognizing what I'm fighting against. It's actually taken me a long while to see some critics (not all) for what they are. Benefit of a doubt and all that. That's on me.

I keep hoping to see some good and have been disappointed time after time. A while back I became convinced (you know why) that you are a liar. And that you somehow are able to live with that. Not that I fully understand how you do it.

Keep on truckin'! You, IHQ, and Marcus do make a fine team. You do the anti-Mormon cause proud. ;)

I'll do what I do and you do you. :D

Thanks again for the compliments in regards to missionary work. We all do our best, don't we?

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Re: Excellent takedown of Mopologist DNA misinformation

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 6:40 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 6:05 pm
:lol: said the prolific poster who is too damn lazy to post a proper contribution to the board but spams every single thread. You’re too damn lazy.

Note: MG 2.0 the poster who needed to spend less time on this board, is nearly up to 6,300 posts. In fact his posting rate (of cheap, unresearched, “spam” contributions) has accelerated!

Post some quotes in rebuttal of Southerton from those sources you muttered something about. Or don’t, just continue with being a lazy poster.
More of the same. From the person that doesn't answer ANY questions. And you didn't even respond to the 'meat' of my post having to do with A.I. and expedited responses to your prolific and frequent posts.

Yep, I've spent WAY to much time and too many posts responding to your rather jaundiced and biased posts. And you're asking me to spend MORE time to act as a buffer between your falsehoods and something more closely approximating the truth?

As I mentioned, you will have your way on this board. I can't keep up with your volume unless I have additional resources and help. A.I. provided an excellent means/way to do that. You apparently want me to actually spend MORE time counteracting the critics such as yourself. I can't do that.

In regards to what I had gathered in regards to counteracting your 'glowing' remarks in regards to Simon Southerton, this is just one of many examples in which I could have actually posted information which directly counters your false or partially untrue comments. And save so much time in doing so. But you won't have anything of it.

You simply call out "lazy!" BS.

That says something more about you, not me. Anyway, I've said what I said and stick to it...as if it really matters around here. Keep on truckin' IHQ. I think I've figured out why you post so much on this board.

It's a free for all with no guardrails. And now you've pushed for and succeeded in doing away with one of the more potentially useful and important guardrails.

Information. More, rather than less. You now have free reign. I can't spend the necessary time that you are asking me to in order to counteract your frequent bombardment of one sided and biased contributions to the board. In suppose that in this sense, you win.

Congratulations. You've gotten what you want. I just hope you can sleep at night. And again, you don't have to answer any questions yourself!

What a gig.

Regards,
MG
All those words yet not a single, researched quote from the geneticists you put forward. Just lots of words that contribute nothing. Not only are you a laser poster, but you’re vacuous too.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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