Jacob Hansen: Yesser No?

[Hound of Heaven]

You have been duped. If you listen to these folks you will continue to be duped. Just listen...on your own... to his YouTube channel and make your own determination. If you still think he's cultish then, well, that is YOUR determination. But don't cave into the jaundiced views of those you are interacting with here. That is, if you are truly seeking for truth from all quarters.

I wish you well.

Regards,
MG

I like to consider myself undupable. I am anti-MAGA, for example, while many in my circle have been duped by the horrible Orange President. I left the church, but I don't fault anyone for not leaving the church. I'm not angry or anything.

Do you consider yourself progressive? Progressivism or Mormonism or scientology or pick your "ism" or "ology" , just because you left Mormonism doesn't mean you're undupable.

[Hound of Heaven]

Friends, when MG 2.0 uses "TTOC" it signifies a retreat or complete white-flag surrender by him and the LDS apologists on the point to which the TTOC is thrown up by MG 2.0.

Yes. He always gives explanations like this and attacks people directly when he runs out of bogus mopologetic stuff.

I have viewed numerous videos by Jacob Hansen, and I see little distinction between his commitment to Mormonism and the restored gospel and the Marxist ideology that many of the progressive contributors here seem to embrace.

One only needs to view a Jacob Hansen video to witness his complete dedication to the restored gospel. Following that, watching any video of a progressive articulating their Marxist progressive ideology reveals a comparable level of commitment to their respective beliefs among both Mormons and progressives.

Jacob is completely confident in his beliefs regarding Mormonism, and the same holds true for Marcus, Kishkumen, and DrCamnPP in their commitment to Marxist progressive ideology. Both ideologies claim to be the sole authentic and fulfilling way to live on this planet. Both claim to represent the most enlightened and progressive ideologies on the planet. Jacob, Marcus, and Kishkumen are identical.

Prior to speaking or writing, they possess complete confidence that what they are about to convey to those listening is the truth, as their overlords have assured them of its validity. It's really that straightforward! They have surrendered their freedom of thought to a higher power because they became weary of thinking for themselves.

At least Jacob has a reason! He was born into Mormonism, in contrast to Marcus and Kishkumen, who departed from it and opted for an alternative ideology that is equally controlling, if not more so!

[Marcus]

Yes. He always gives explanations like this and attacks people directly when he runs out of bogus mopologetic stuff.

I have viewed numerous videos by Jacob Hansen, and I see little distinction between his commitment to Mormonism and the restored gospel and the Marxist ideology that many of the progressive contributors here seem to embrace.

One only needs to view a Jacob Hansen video to witness his complete dedication to the restored gospel. Following that, watching any video of a progressive articulating their Marxist progressive ideology reveals a comparable level of commitment to their respective beliefs among both Mormons and progressives.

Jacob is completely confident in his beliefs regarding Mormonism, and the same holds true for Marcus, Kishkumen, and DrCamnPP in their commitment to Marxist progressive ideology. Both ideologies claim to be the sole authentic and fulfilling way to live on this planet. Both claim to represent the most enlightened and progressive ideologies on the planet. Jacob, Marcus, and Kishkumen are identical.

Prior to speaking or writing, they possess complete confidence that what they are about to convey to those listening is the truth, as their overlords have assured them of its validity. It's really that straightforward! They have surrendered their freedom of thought to a higher power because they became weary of thinking for themselves.

At least Jacob has a reason! He was born into Mormonism, in contrast to Marcus and Kishkumen, who departed from it and opted for an alternative ideology that is equally controlling, if not more so!

Did you think I was talking about Hansen? That's too funny. You really are spiraling, aren't you?

Your comments never made much sense, but now that you are panicking over possibly being relegated to a mega-thread, your random incursions into other threads to try to tie in your bizarre topics just smack of desperation. It's embarrassing to watch, Spooder Dog. Try to control yourself.

[Hound of Heaven]

I have viewed numerous videos by Jacob Hansen, and I see little distinction between his commitment to Mormonism and the restored gospel and the Marxist ideology that many of the progressive contributors here seem to embrace.

One only needs to view a Jacob Hansen video to witness his complete dedication to the restored gospel. Following that, watching any video of a progressive articulating their Marxist progressive ideology reveals a comparable level of commitment to their respective beliefs among both Mormons and progressives.

Jacob is completely confident in his beliefs regarding Mormonism, and the same holds true for Marcus, Kishkumen, and DrCamnPP in their commitment to Marxist progressive ideology. Both ideologies claim to be the sole authentic and fulfilling way to live on this planet. Both claim to represent the most enlightened and progressive ideologies on the planet. Jacob, Marcus, and Kishkumen are identical.

Prior to speaking or writing, they possess complete confidence that what they are about to convey to those listening is the truth, as their overlords have assured them of its validity. It's really that straightforward! They have surrendered their freedom of thought to a higher power because they became weary of thinking for themselves.

At least Jacob has a reason! He was born into Mormonism, in contrast to Marcus and Kishkumen, who departed from it and opted for an alternative ideology that is equally controlling, if not more so!

Did you think I was talking about Hansen? That's too funny. You really are spiraling, aren't you?

Your comments never made much sense, but now that you are panicking over possibly being relegated to a mega-thread, your random incursions into other threads to try to tie in your bizarre topics just smack of desperation. It's embarrassing to watch, Spooder Dog. Try to control yourself.

No, I didn't believe you were referring to Hansen. I selected your initial post to demonstrate that your ideology and Hansen's ideology are actually quite similar! He is confident in his views on every topic, which provides him with a sense of comfort and tranquility, just as you are assured in your own progressive perspectives, bringing you similar peace and serenity!

You are being quite mischievous! I selected your initial post for that reason, as it seems your presence in this thread is solely to criticize MG2.0. Your post makes it clear once read. Your disdain for individuals such as MG2.0 and Hansen is clear in every post you make. If Hansen or MG2.0 decide to embrace Mormonism, that is their choice. Just as you have the right to embrace progressive ideology, both can be seen as religions. What is it about MG2.0 that prompts you to follow him on every thread just to troll him for your own amusement?

[MG 2.0]

Did you think I was talking about Hansen? That's too funny. You really are spiraling, aren't you?

Your comments never made much sense, but now that you are panicking over possibly being relegated to a mega-thread, your random incursions into other threads to try to tie in your bizarre topics just smack of desperation. It's embarrassing to watch, Spooder Dog. Try to control yourself.

No, I didn't believe you were referring to Hansen. I selected your initial post to demonstrate that your ideology and Hansen's ideology are actually quite similar! He is confident in his views on every topic, which provides him with a sense of comfort and tranquility, just as you are assured in your own progressive perspectives, bringing you similar peace and serenity!

You are being quite mischievous! I selected your initial post for that reason, as it seems your presence in this thread is solely to criticize MG2.0. Your post makes it clear once read. Your disdain for individuals such as MG2.0 and Hansen is clear in every post you make. If Hansen or MG2.0 decide to embrace Mormonism, that is their choice. Just as you have the right to embrace progressive ideology, both can be seen as religions. What is it about MG2.0 that prompts you to follow him on every thread just to troll him for your own amusement?

This.

Regards,
MG

[Everybody Wang Chung]

Mg is cut and pasting AI again, because his paragraphs you quoted make no sense. They are a "fantastic summary of Christian history" indeed. I'd like to ask him where he got the 'take up his jewels' bit (because it clearly isn't the Mormon version), but he's shown repeatedly that he doesn't have the capacity to explain himself.

Marcus,

You're right. Fibber did cut and paste again. This is at least the sixth time he has been caught doing that despite repeatedly promising not to engage in this type of unethical behavior.

Fibber MG has no shame.

[MG 2.0]

Mg is cut and pasting AI again, because his paragraphs you quoted make no sense. They are a "fantastic summary of Christian history" indeed. I'd like to ask him where he got the 'take up his jewels' bit (because it clearly isn't the Mormon version), but he's shown repeatedly that he doesn't have the capacity to explain himself.

Marcus,

You're right. Fibber did cut and paste again. This is at least the sixth time he has been caught doing that despite repeatedly promising not to engage in this type of unethical behavior.

Fibber MG has no shame.

Quoted section in question, in context:

MG: From what we can see, the communities and practices of the early followers of Jesus didn’t make it much beyond the first generation of believers before things morphed. We then end up with a state sanctioned religion. It is THAT church that moved throughout the known world. The question is whether God/Jesus, knowing the end from the beginning, ordained this to be so.

It is from THIS seed that we later have Protestantism which ends up with an overhaul that many revere to be a ‘fullness’ of God’s Kingdom on earth. One that will never leave until the Savior returns to take up a his jewels.

Is it a grand scheme or is it a fluke? Depends on where you’re sitting.

You are incorrect. I’ve been studying early church (ancient) church history recently. Interesting stuff! Yep, the jewels comment was original. As was the rest of that post.

Sixth time? I do think you are making that up. Two strikes, or is it three? (losing count) As I’ve said recently, your responses tell me a bit more about you each time you open your mouth. Your rap sheet has gotten longer and longer over a period of time and I think I’m seeing a developing pattern. And it troubles me.

Regards,
MG

[I Have Questions]

So a couple of examples:

Matthew 19:29 says, "And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands for the sake of my name will receive a hundred times more, and will inherit eternal life".

And in the same chapter:
10 The disciples said to him, “If such is the case of a man with his wife, it is better not to marry.” 11 But he said to them, “Not everyone can accept this teaching, but only those to whom it is given. 12 For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.”

Most scholars seem to think eunuch is a term here that is being used as a metaphor for those who choose to abstain from sex.

And of course Jesus taught that in the resurrection there would be no marriage, but that instead people would be like the angels (who were thought to be sexless).

Pretty much the opposite of what is taught in the LDS tradition!

The question is whether God/Jesus, knowing the end from the beginning, ordained this to be so.

You are trying to move your ground without people noticing. Again. The question was (and still is) - does the SLC LDS Church reflect a restoration of the things Jesus taught? PseudoPaul has comprehensively answered that question. It’s a big fat No.

Having failed on that score, you are now trying to find a more ambiguous set of conditions that you think the Church you were born and raised in can meet. So you’re going with “God and Jesus sanctioned my Church, and only my Church because my Church says so. So there.” I’m looking forward to seeing just how convoluted and contrived you are going to be.

[Hound of Heaven]

Mg is cut and pasting AI again, because his paragraphs you quoted make no sense. They are a "fantastic summary of Christian history" indeed. I'd like to ask him where he got the 'take up his jewels' bit (because it clearly isn't the Mormon version), but he's shown repeatedly that he doesn't have the capacity to explain himself.

Marcus,

You're right. Fibber did cut and paste again. This is at least the sixth time he has been caught doing that despite repeatedly promising not to engage in this type of unethical behavior.

Fibber MG has no shame.

Oh look, I discovered another individual who enjoys posting just to provoke others on the discussion board, targeting one specific devoted Mormon! Perhaps not just one Mormon, but rather two: MG2.0 and Dan Peterson.

Allow me to pose the same question to you that I previously asked your Trolling companion, Marcus. What causes you to harbor such anger that you eagerly anticipate posting on the board solely to criticize and condemn those who believe in Mormonism? Who caused you such harm that you feel the need to direct your anger at someone online whom you've never encountered? It's clear from your post that if you encountered MG2.0 in person, you wouldn't have the same boldness to address him as you do in this forum. Furthermore, it's evident from your feeble and lackluster posts that if you encountered Jacob Hansen in person, you wouldn't express your opinions about Mormons in the same manner you do here.

I agree with you that Jacob is attempting to avoid discussing church history in an honest manner, but that is his choice. However, that doesn't justify acting immature or overly sensitive just because a Mormon is behaving in a typical manner!

[Mag’ladroth]

That's a fantastic summary of Christian history, MG.

Is it a grand scheme or a fluke? The answer, of course, is both! It’s a magnificent, divinely-inspired fluke and it's a scheme so grand and so convoluted that it involves emperors, reformers, peep stones, polygamy, gold plates, Egyptian funerary papyri, racism, a sex cult and fake civilizations/history. It's also the biggest fluke of all time and the fact there are thousands of different religions is proof that God has a truly wicked sense of humor. Or that humans are just really gullible and really good at making things complicated.

Depends on where you’re sitting, I suppose.

Ah! You are revealing a bit more about yourself. You have a hard time recognizing a God that would be doing a work through and in between a convoluted mess…from our perspective. Makes you wonder what kind of God would be/do the kinds of things that would result in something with so many moving pieces. Some of them, for all intents and purposes, seemingly leading AWAY from God.

What’s up with that? Have you figured it out?

Regards
MG

MG coming in to tell us that Jesus lied when He said that He would always be with the disciples and that the church wouldn’t fail. Just like Elohim lied to Adam by giving him a command Elohim didn't actually want kept, and actually wanted the Fall to happen.

All so golden plates, Masonic handshakes, fake papyri, and Polygamy could be forgotten. Resulting in a pretty incompetent God who can’t even keep His own instruction straight nor His “lifesaving temple work” from being forgotten.