Excellent takedown of Mopologist DNA misinformation

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Re: Excellent takedown of Mopologist DNA misinformation

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Aug 30, 2025 8:40 pm
:evil:
I Have Questions wrote:
Sat Aug 30, 2025 7:22 pm
So no, you can’t. Okay.
IHQ, lazy bones, you can do SOMETHING other than constantly criticizing can’t you?

What I’ve said, stands.

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MG
The burden of providing quotes for your sources rests with you. Nobody else. Please provide them.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Re: Excellent takedown of Mopologist DNA misinformation

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Aug 30, 2025 6:04 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Sat Aug 30, 2025 5:51 pm
Feel free to link to them and provide quotes. Or is Ugo’s wishful thinking the best there is?
There have been others that have joined in on the debate.

Michael F. Whiting
Scott Woodward
David Glenn Smith
Jeffrey Meldrum
Brant Gardner

These are not all geneticists, but they have had an interest in the discussion.

I suppose that one might ask how many LDS geneticists have spent the time even looking at this issue. One might suppose that if an LDS geneticist has a spiritual witness of the truth of the Book of Mormon they are less inclined to delve into the DNA controversies. Same with most members of the church I would expect. If you have a testimony of the Book of Mormon, some of the unresolved issues don’t play as big a part as it might do among those that never had that testimony.

I remember not that long ago gadianton admitted to the fact that he never really spent much time reading the Book of Mormon. Whether that is true or not with other critics, who knows? Is there anywhere where Simon Southerton has expressed his views or testimony of the Book of Mormon before his ‘awakening’?

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MG
Meldrum authored Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science in 2006. The book was heavily criticized in a detailed review in the Skeptical Inquirer.[9] Anthropologist David J. Daegling commented that author was "unable or unwilling to distinguish good research from bad, science from pseudoscience" and the book failed to provide a thorough scientific analysis
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Re: Excellent takedown of Mopologist DNA misinformation

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Rivendale wrote:
Sat Aug 30, 2025 8:48 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Aug 30, 2025 6:04 pm
There have been others that have joined in on the debate.

Michael F. Whiting
Scott Woodward
David Glenn Smith
Jeffrey Meldrum
Brant Gardner

These are not all geneticists, but they have had an interest in the discussion.

I suppose that one might ask how many LDS geneticists have spent the time even looking at this issue. One might suppose that if an LDS geneticist has a spiritual witness of the truth of the Book of Mormon they are less inclined to delve into the DNA controversies. Same with most members of the church I would expect. If you have a testimony of the Book of Mormon, some of the unresolved issues don’t play as big a part as it might do among those that never had that testimony.

I remember not that long ago gadianton admitted to the fact that he never really spent much time reading the Book of Mormon. Whether that is true or not with other critics, who knows? Is there anywhere where Simon Southerton has expressed his views or testimony of the Book of Mormon before his ‘awakening’?

Regards,
MG
Meldrum authored Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science in 2006. The book was heavily criticized in a detailed review in the Skeptical Inquirer.[9] Anthropologist David J. Daegling commented that author was "unable or unwilling to distinguish good research from bad, science from pseudoscience" and the book failed to provide a thorough scientific analysis
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Priceless.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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