Mudslide slams into Provo LDS church

[Everybody Wang Chung]

In another example of God’s displeasure with the SLC LDS Church…

Crews continued cleanup efforts at the Latter-day Saints church on South Slate Canyon Drive in Provo, where most of the damage occurred. The church was covered in up to four feet of mud after the debris slid down the Buckley Draw Fire's burn scar on Wednesday.

A microburst of heavy rain saturated the burn scar, causing debris to rush down the hillside and into the roadway and the side of the church.

Why didn’t the Holy Ghost step up with some inspiration when the Church’s property department were in the planning stage? “Hey guys, don’t build in the likely path of a mud slide”.

One must admit, there's a certain poetic irony in the Mormon church being buried in four feet of mud, crap, and debris. Surely the Mormon god wouldn't let a simple microburst—a tiny tantrum of weather—obliterate a house of worship. I bet Zeus wouldn't have let this happen.

While the public works engineer, Gordon Haight, is all "nothing could have prepared them for this," a neighbor named Barry Card is out here saying, "This could have been avoided!" It seems Barry has more faith in a well-constructed debris channel than Mormon god. Perhaps the real miracle here would have been for the city to have a functional, 1,200-foot-long debris channel built before the disaster.

One has to wonder if this is some kind of message, or a sign that even the most devout Mormons should remember to check the local building codes and invest in a decent drainage system. Because heaven helps those who help themselves, and perhaps even more so, those who build with proper mitigation/drainage efforts.

[MG 2.0]

In another example of God’s displeasure with the SLC LDS Church…

Why didn’t the Holy Ghost step up with some inspiration when the Church’s property department were in the planning stage? “Hey guys, don’t build in the likely path of a mud slide”.

One must admit, there's a certain poetic irony in the Mormon church being buried in four feet of mud, crap, and debris. Surely the Mormon god wouldn't let a simple microburst—a tiny tantrum of weather—obliterate a house of worship. I bet Zeus wouldn't have let this happen.

While the public works engineer, Gordon Haight, is all "nothing could have prepared them for this," a neighbor named Barry Card is out here saying, "This could have been avoided!" It seems Barry has more faith in a well-constructed debris channel than Mormon god. Perhaps the real miracle here would have been for the city to have a functional, 1,200-foot-long debris channel built before the disaster.

One has to wonder if this is some kind of message, or a sign that even the most devout Mormons should remember to check the local building codes and invest in a decent drainage system. Because heaven helps those who help themselves, and perhaps even more so, those who build with proper mitigation/drainage efforts.

Go back and read the news reports, including the video I posted upthread. There had been an ongoing conversation and will continue to be a conversation, and hopefully action, to keep this from happening again. But as some people commented, when mother nature gets really angry it's a bit difficult to control her.

You sure seem to be talking a lot more about God than you normally do.

Regards,
MG

[Limnor]

I’m an “investigator” and haven’t heard anything persuasive.

[Everybody Wang Chung]

I’m an “investigator” and haven’t heard anything persuasive.

Limnor,

You mean you haven't read anything persuasive from Fibber MG? Fibber is the board's self-proclaimed missionary. He has told us on several occasions that his sole purpose here is he hopes that investigators/lurkers will read his posts and be persuaded to become Mormon.

I'm shocked that Fibber's posts haven't made you want to run to the baptismal font.

[Limnor]

Correct. From my point of view it appears as if the “persuasion” relies on the thinnest edge of possibility and not the preponderance of evidence.

[Rivendale]

As a reminder, this is what the thread is about.

Please can we stop facilitating MG’s efforts at dragging threads off topic…

As recently as the last page I was on topic until some others blew things up. That picture is a muddy mess!! There, back on topic. Keep it that way?

Regards,
MG

If these people had a sense of humor and a bit of humility they would put on some swimsuits and have a good old fashion mud fight. That gesture right there would squash the rigid Styrofoam polyester image out there and maybe perhaps diminish their title as the most disrespected religion. Maybe they did but godsbeless they share it.

[Limnor]

Not to mention confusion. The other day I was following a thread in which the term “Creator God” was used.

I was led to understand that the LDS God did not create, but rather organized existing matter.

Which, interestingly, is how it seems much of LDS scripture was created/organized.

Apologies for the continuation of the derail.

[Everybody Wang Chung]

Correct. From my point of view it appears as if the “persuasion” relies on the thinnest edge of possibility and not the preponderance of evidence.

Yes, I too have been completely underwhelmed with the thin evidence Fibber MG has presented. Hopefully, Fibber's kind and Christlike behavior when interacting with others has left a good impression on you about how Mormons act?

[Rivendale]

Not to mention confusion. The other day I was following a thread in which the term “Creator God” was used.

I was led to understand that the LDS God did not create, but rather organized existing matter.

Which, interestingly, is how it seems much of LDS scripture was created/organized.

Apologies for the continuation of the derail.

And organize is a loaded term that insinuates you know how to organize which in essence gives you de facto knowledge of something you should have known? Translated? I found some decrepit natural enemy of me but I am going to create Mini me's in an effort to put them through torture and then they can become like me and replicate my Steve Irwin discovery of you. But it is genuine trust me.

[Limnor]

Correct. From my point of view it appears as if the “persuasion” relies on the thinnest edge of possibility and not the preponderance of evidence.

Yes, I too have been completely underwhelmed with the thin evidence Fibber MG has presented. Hopefully, Fibber's kind and Christlike behavior when interacting with others has left a good impression on you about how Mormons act?

Frankly, it must be frustrating to defend the sheer amount of difficulties. That frustration appears to bubble over at times. My feeling is one of pity as I’d feel seeing an animal caught in a snare.