Well, to be charitable to HornDogger, one must consider that visual and auditory faculties often decline with age, particularly for individuals in their mid-eighties.canpakes wrote: ↑Fri Sep 12, 2025 1:22 pmOops. You blew that one.Hound of Heaven wrote: ↑Fri Sep 12, 2025 10:43 amReally, think about what's happening in this video! Two white progressives walking around a vigil, pointing at people of color and calling them "sellouts" because of the color of their skin. Those actions are a perfect example of the superiority complex most progressives have after being fully indoctrinated into the progressive cult!
The Latino fellow on the electric bike - the fellow you’re calling a ‘progressive’ - was first attacked and pulled off of the bike and punched multiple times by Kirk fans. It’s right there at the beginning of the video. Maybe you should watch it more closely.
Yes, Kirk fans can certainly be sellouts … to right-wing hatred, violence and racism.
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Perhaps if Irina Zaretska were a little more racist, she'd have known better than to sit down on a light rail car with her back to a black man, and thus unable to see what he was doing. But all her life, she was taught that it was the worst of all sins save it be first degree murder, nto think or even play the odds in this manner. And as a result she's dead. Which would you prefer, life with leftwing extremists excoriating you as a racist for walking the other way when see a black man in a dark alley, or dead because you trusted the woke lie that the real crime statistics are just white supremacist propaganda rather than relying on your own intuition and common sense experience and pattern recognition.Nobody ever accused racists of being smart.
Stupidity is a prerequisite.
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Seeing the post pop up everywhere on social media. Not sure if it’s accurate:


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Which of these are true? -ajax18 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 12, 2025 4:40 pmPerhaps if Irina Zaretska were a little more racist, she'd have known better than to sit down on a light rail car with her back to a black man, and thus unable to see what he was doing. But all her life, she was taught that it was the worst of all sins save it be first degree murder, nto think or even play the odds in this manner. And as a result she's dead. Which would you prefer, life with leftwing extremists excoriating you as a racist for walking the other way when see a black man in a dark alley, or dead because you trusted the woke lie that the real crime statistics are just white supremacist propaganda rather than relying on your own intuition and common sense experience and pattern recognition.Nobody ever accused racists of being smart.
Stupidity is a prerequisite.
1. You believe that Zaretska was killed because her killer was racist.
2. You believe that black folks passing by you are prone to kill you.
3. Charlie Kirk’s killer was secretly transgender, or racist against white folks, or both.
Some people will be left wondering how such a stalwart conservative Republican family produced a son who felt the need to take out Charlie Kirk. Any ideas?
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Thank you for confirming Schmo's claim that stupidity is a prerequisite for racism! The schizophrenic who stabbed Irina Zaretska could just as easily have been white, Asian or of any other racial or ethnic group. If her killer had been a white man, you would have had nothing to say about it.ajax18 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 12, 2025 4:40 pmPerhaps if Irina Zaretska were a little more racist, she'd have known better than to sit down on a light rail car with her back to a black man, and thus unable to see what he was doing. But all her life, she was taught that it was the worst of all sins save it be first degree murder, nto think or even play the odds in this manner. And as a result she's dead. Which would you prefer, life with leftwing extremists excoriating you as a racist for walking the other way when see a black man in a dark alley, or dead because you trusted the woke lie that the real crime statistics are just white supremacist propaganda rather than relying on your own intuition and common sense experience and pattern recognition.Nobody ever accused racists of being smart.
Stupidity is a prerequisite.
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I think ajax was saying or implying that Zaretska was partly to blame for her own death because she was not sufficiently racist to automatically assume that she must be in deadly danger merely because of her near proximity to a Black man.canpakes wrote: ↑Fri Sep 12, 2025 5:34 pmWhich of these are true? -ajax18 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 12, 2025 4:40 pm
Perhaps if Irina Zaretska were a little more racist, she'd have known better than to sit down on a light rail car with her back to a black man, and thus unable to see what he was doing. But all her life, she was taught that it was the worst of all sins save it be first degree murder, nto think or even play the odds in this manner. And as a result she's dead. Which would you prefer, life with leftwing extremists excoriating you as a racist for walking the other way when see a black man in a dark alley, or dead because you trusted the woke lie that the real crime statistics are just white supremacist propaganda rather than relying on your own intuition and common sense experience and pattern recognition.
1. You believe that Zaretska was killed because her killer was racist.
2. You believe that black folks passing by you are prone to kill you.
3. Charlie Kirk’s killer was secretly transgender, or racist against white folks, or both.
Some people will be left wondering how such a stalwart conservative Republican family produced a son who felt the need to take out Charlie Kirk. Any ideas?
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And likely an exMormon who probably shared many of the same beliefs as those who regularly post here. It wasn't the Lamanites but rather apostate Nephites that seemed to turn out to be the worst of all people.Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Fri Sep 12, 2025 4:44 pmSeeing the post pop up everywhere on social media. Not sure if it’s accurate:
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Oh look, a Nazi completely making up facts in order to justify his degeneracy. In other news, the sky is blue.ajax18 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 12, 2025 4:40 pm
Perhaps if Irina Zaretska were a little more racist, she'd have known better than to sit down on a light rail car with her back to a black man, and thus unable to see what he was doing. But all her life, she was taught that it was the worst of all sins save it be first degree murder, nto think or even play the odds in this manner. And as a result she's dead. Which would you prefer, life with leftwing extremists excoriating you as a racist for walking the other way when see a black man in a dark alley, or dead because you trusted the woke lie that the real crime statistics are just white supremacist propaganda rather than relying on your own intuition and common sense experience and pattern recognition.
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I agree that's what he was getting at, and again, I can't help but think he's slightly retarded. (by the way, I use the word "retarded" specifically because right-wingers thought their free speech was impeded when they "couldn't say retarded" anymore, part of their idiotic rational for a Trump vote, so I use it liberally to describe them. They're getting what they voted for).
Black men are potentially dangerous to the same extent that all other races of men are potentially dangerous. If anything, she should have worried to be close to a man.
I'm repetitively amazed at how dumb Trump voters are. It's is unbelievable to me.
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Exactly! He was not so much condemning her murderer for being racist, as he was condemning her for not being racist enough.Some Schmo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 12, 2025 6:51 pmI agree that's what he was getting at, and again, I can't help but think he's slightly retarded. (by the way, I use the word "retarded" specifically because right-wingers thought their free speech was impeded when they "couldn't say retarded" anymore, part of their idiotic rational for a Trump vote, so I use it liberally to describe them. They're getting what they voted for).
Black men are potentially dangerous to the same extent that all other races of men are potentially dangerous. If anything, she should have worried to be close to a man.
I'm repetitively amazed at how dumb Trump voters are. It's is unbelievable to me.
No precept or claim is more suspect or more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.