Nelson reaffirms TK smoothie doctrine that gender is not eternal

[Marcus]

Personally, I’d like to hear what Heavenly Mother has to say…but our loving Heavenly Father won’t let her speak for herself.

I think her will and her desires are made known. Truthfully? If you or anyone else were to talk about Heavenly Mother in a similar manner that you feel/talk about God/Heavenly Father and Jesus…that would be even MORE disgusting than what we already hear all too often.

Women shouldn’t be treated like that. My wife is treated with respect. I would not think of swearing in her name or swearing at her. Yet, I think, some people would do just that if Heavenly Mother was at the forefront...

You mean like how you treat women here? You're rude to everyone, but you'ved engaged in quite a bit of very specifically sexist rudeness when you know you're speaking to a woman. You wouldn't think of swearing at your wife, but you told me you weren't sure you would be able to refrain from throwing food at me if we met.

[drumdude]

I think her will and her desires are made known. Truthfully? If you or anyone else were to talk about Heavenly Mother in a similar manner that you feel/talk about God/Heavenly Father and Jesus…that would be even MORE disgusting than what we already hear all too often.

Women shouldn’t be treated like that. My wife is treated with respect. I would not think of swearing in her name or swearing at her. Yet, I think, some people would do just that if Heavenly Mother was at the forefront...

You mean like how you treat women here? You're rude to everyone, but you'ved engaged in quite a bit of very specifically sexist rudeness when you know you're speaking to a woman. You wouldn't think of swearing at your wife, but you told me you weren't sure you would be able to refrain from throwing food at me if we met.

I have also noticed a distinct difference between how MG speaks to men and women here.

[I Have Questions]

Personally, I’d like to hear what Heavenly Mother has to say…but our loving Heavenly Father won’t let her speak for herself.

I think her will and her desires are made known.

Let me guess, via a man?

Truthfully? If you or anyone else were to talk about Heavenly Mother in a similar manner that you feel/talk about God/Heavenly Father and Jesus…that would be even MORE disgusting than what we already hear all too often.

Women shouldn’t be treated like that. My wife is treated with respect. I would not think of swearing in her name or swearing at her. Yet, I think, some people would do just that if Heavenly Mother was at the forefront. God protects her from the crap that He has to endure.

Regards,
MG

Your treatment of women on this board is terrible. So stop lying. You have no problem with treating women badly.

[Shulem]

God protects her from the crap that He has to endure.

O Gawd, u piss me off, MG.

That is the same "crap" my father used to tell me when I was a young boy growing up in the church and it's nothing but Mormon hogwash. It's stupid apologetic crap.

Let me tell you what I think of Heavenly Mormon Mother:

1) She's a bitch
2) She's a whore
3) She's a slut

I think that covers what I think of so-called Heavenly Mother!

May she rot in Mormon heaven. A stupid, f-ing woman!

I will apologize and detract my entire statement after the Church apologizes and corrects the Explanations of Facsimile No 3.

That sounds fair.

[malkie]

This could be a red light special, but we would have to change the bulb!!!

OK, little penguin - you got me.

How many DMers would it take to change the bulb?

[image of my favourite Mexican "cookie"
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[MG 2.0]

You mean like how you treat women here? You're rude to everyone, but you'ved engaged in quite a bit of very specifically sexist rudeness when you know you're speaking to a woman. You wouldn't think of swearing at your wife, but you told me you weren't sure you would be able to refrain from throwing food at me if we met.

I have also noticed a distinct difference between how MG speaks to men and women here.

You may also notice that the way I approach canpakes is significantly different than the way I approach/interact with Marcus. It actually has nothing to do with the fact they are both women. It has to do with the fact that they are both very different in their civility and reasonableness. It wouldn't matter if either one or both were men.

Past grudges are past grudges. Trolling me around is trolling me around. Twisting words and contextual manipulation is an unfair and cheap shot method of getting one's way. Setting up a straw man is setting up a straw man.

Am I referring to one and not the other here?

Again, gender/sex has NOTHING to do with the fact that there are certain individuals who are uncivil, whether they be male or female.

Who else besides Marcus and canpakes might you be referring to?

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

Why were Shulem's comments not condemned?

You folks are an interesting lot.

Regards,
MG

[malkie]

I have also noticed a distinct difference between how MG speaks to men and women here.

You may also notice that the way I approach canpakes is significantly different than the way I approach/interact with Marcus. It actually has nothing to do with the fact they are both women. It has to do with the fact that they are both very different in their civility and reasonableness. It wouldn't matter if either one or both were men.

Past grudges are past grudges. Trolling me around is trolling me around. Twisting words and contextual manipulation is an unfair and cheap shot method of getting one's way. Setting up a straw man is setting up a straw man.

Am I referring to one and not the other here?

Again, gender/sex has NOTHING to do with the fact that there are certain individuals who are uncivil, whether they be male or female.

Who else besides Marcus and canpakes might you be referring to?

Regards,
MG

Do I have to search for the post in which you asked someone (Marcus?) if they were male or female so that you would know how to interact with them?

[MG 2.0]

You may also notice that the way I approach canpakes is significantly different than the way I approach/interact with Marcus. It actually has nothing to do with the fact they are both women. It has to do with the fact that they are both very different in their civility and reasonableness. It wouldn't matter if either one or both were men.

Past grudges are past grudges. Trolling me around is trolling me around. Twisting words and contextual manipulation is an unfair and cheap shot method of getting one's way. Setting up a straw man is setting up a straw man.

Am I referring to one and not the other here?

Again, gender/sex has NOTHING to do with the fact that there are certain individuals who are uncivil, whether they be male or female.

Who else besides Marcus and canpakes might you be referring to?

Regards,
MG

Do I have to search for the post in which you asked someone (Marcus?) if they were male or female so that you would know how to interact with them?

With the complete context of whatever was being said, sure. By the way, have you observed a difference in the way I've interacted with canpakes vs. Marcus? If so, why do you think that is?

And again, any other women on the board you are referring to?

Marcus is indeed, a unique example. She has no intention of actually engaging in a civil and interesting conversation. I've tried to get her to do so too many times to count but she responds and comes back with...well, you know.

Do you not find it kind of weird that she purposefully follows/trolls me around on almost every thread I am trying to have a civil conversation on? That she and IHQ, and sometimes others, will collude and do the 'tag team' thing in order to distract from an important contribution or point being made by 'the opposition' ?

I suppose it's human nature to hear what we want to hear and disregard/twist the rest to protect the cocoons of our own making. Believers and non believers do the same thing. Some are more conscious of the dangers of doing so more than others I suppose.

Regards,
MG

[Shulem]

Why were Shulem's comments not condemned?

You folks are an interesting lot.

No worries.

It was only an exercise in expressing comparison to make a point; I know it was mean, but it makes a certain point I thought worth expressing to help you understand how what is said about the persons (male & female) in Facsimile No. 3 are nasty and vicious lies that Mormons shamefully continue to publish to this very day. So I figure I'd do a little payback and slam the Goddess-mother of Mormonism. Fair is fair or eye for an eye.

Also, the apologetic about Mormon-mother is just ego man-talk. It's mortal man's idea of how he thinks a Man-god having a Man-woman at his side behaves in front of the children. The apologetic is rather worldly, it's earthy immature He-man stuff.