Trump's War on the First Amendment

[canpakes]

Sorta. Check Sinclair.

Thanks -- that's wild, man.

Sinclair has a whole new lineup of programming to air in place of Kimmel’s show. Details were given on the Dutch program LUBACH. This segment’s audio starts out in Dutch but has subtitles and moves to English audio for the announcement.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7vRX-BQAjeE

Yes, it’s satire, for now. Give it a few months.

[Markk]

He was taken off the air because of what he said, and his employer didn't like it, it was bad for business. If he had better ratings and some humility, maybe he would have survived it.

Kimmel's show returns to ABC tomorrow.

So Trump allow him to come back, or did Disney?

[Whiskey]

Kimmel's show returns to ABC tomorrow.

So Trump allow him to come back, or did Disney?

LMAO.

[Markk]

STATEMENT ON JIMMY KIMMEL LIVE! FROM THE WALT DISNEY COMPANY
The Walt Disney Company issued the following statement today regarding Jimmy Kimmel Live!

Last Wednesday, we made the decision to suspend production on the show to avoid further inflaming a tense situation at an emotional moment for our country. It is a decision we made because we felt some of the comments were ill-timed and thus insensitive. We have spent the last days having thoughtful conversations with Jimmy, and after those conversations, we reached the decision to return the show on Tuesday.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/arts/read- ... mmy-kimmel

Go figure.

[canpakes]

STATEMENT ON JIMMY KIMMEL LIVE! FROM THE WALT DISNEY COMPANY
The Walt Disney Company issued the following statement today regarding Jimmy Kimmel Live!

Last Wednesday, we made the decision to suspend production on the show to avoid further inflaming a tense situation at an emotional moment for our country. It is a decision we made because we felt some of the comments were ill-timed and thus insensitive. We have spent the last days having thoughtful conversations with Jimmy, and after those conversations, we reached the decision to return the show on Tuesday.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/arts/read- ... mmy-kimmel

Go figure.

MAGA’s feelings were hurt, it appears.

[Some Schmo]

MAGA’s feelings were hurt, it appears.

Don't your feelings have to not be hurting at least some of the time so you can feel it when they actually are?

For some reason, I doubt MAGA feels anything. They are perpetually hurt, and have nothing to compare that to (except their imagined time when America was great, back in the legendary day).

[Kishkumen]

Lol, we can certainly test it. Say how you really feel about Kirk openly here and we can send it to XXX and see how they react. He said something insensitive and stupid and he was suspended. There is a long list of others that have done the same and equally paid a price. From Jimmy the Greek, Bill Maher to Rosanne, off the top of my head.

We have freedom of speech, however there are consequences to our speech.

He didn't say anything insensitive or stupid about Charlie Kirk and Kirk's murder, at least that I am aware of. Please show me where he said something insensitive about Charlie Kirk and his murder after the event. Thanks.

It is also noted that your first impulse is to level a threat at me. I remember the days when we used to poke fun at LDS apologists for reporting people to their employers or school supervisors for saying critical things about Mormonism or its apologists. On those rare occasions when a critic did the same to an apologist (I am thinking of GoodK contacting Bob Crockett's law partners), we decried the tactic. GoodK was suspended from the board, if I recall correctly, but I am not sure it was over that. In my view, it should have been, even if it wasn't.

You do remember why this board exists, right? It does not exist for people to threaten each other and squelch free speech. It has always existed to encourage free speech. So, it seems to me that you are suggesting you want to transform the board into another place where people don't feel free to speak their minds. Either that, or you are just being unthinking and reckless.

Do you really want to threaten the board and the people on it in this way? Is that your move? I am assuming that you enjoy coming here to be able to say your piece like the rest of us. We could have an interesting conversation about whether it is tenable to allow people to come here to threaten the free speech of participants on the board and thus the board itself.

[Whiskey]

You do remember why this board exists, right? It does not exist for people to threaten each other and squelch free speech.

Since you brought it ip, perhaps that's not why the board exists but that is exactly why the three moderators exist. And trolling.

I think many people could have and would have lost their jobs for being Team Amazing Shot in the moments and days after the assassination. Kimmel’s timing was bad.

[Kishkumen]

Since you brought it ip, perhaps that's not why the board exists but that is exactly why the three moderators exist. And trolling.

Yeah, well, very few people want a completely dysfunctional free-for-all.

I think many people could have and would have lost their jobs for being Team Amazing Shot in the moments and days after the assassination. Kimmel’s timing was bad.

The only Team Amazing Shot that exists is in your overly active imagination. Timing on what exactly? Show us what an independent thinker you are. I have yet to see how the timely expressions of sympathy and horror in response to the awful murder were a problem. Feel free to explain the problem. Vague-posting is unhelpful.

[Gadianton]

Years ago I went to the comedy club at Pechanga. There were three comedians that night. The first two did scripted routines. The third guy, their main event; this guy walks out and struts around while looking over the audience, and then he starts calling people out. "Look at this guy over here!" and then he mimics the guy, making fun of him. A paying customer no less -- Whiskey, if you have any pearls on you to grab hold of. And he continued to do that with several other individuals. He went into scripted material but broke it up throughout the routine by making fun of selected individuals from the crowd.

So let's change this:

Can the Las Vegas Raiders fire an employee for saying stupid crap about their customers?

to:

Can the Pechenga Comedy Club fire a comedian for saying stupid crap about their customers?

The answer is still yes and no. But a bigger problem is other interesting questions can be asked that aren't relevant to the Raiders' scenario like:

Will the Pechenga Comedy Club make more money if a comedian says stupid crap about their customers?

In other words, a problem with the Raiders analogy seems to be that the example was cherry picked as an example where there is a major conflict of interest between the organizations profit-seeking and "saying stupid crap about their customers".