The Book of Mormon as Codex/Confessional Allegory

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“That God(s) orchestrated the creation/building of this world that we inhabit. That there is purpose and meaning that goes beyond the here and now. That we can continue to progress and become more like God the Father. I could go on. Essentially, for me, the CofJCofLDS actually makes sense in its overall theology.”

Most of this has underpinnings within the Book of Abraham as its ancient source. If the Book of Abraham is fictional, then all of this lacks a firm foundation.

So while you like it and it sounds good, the sole source appears to be Joseph. The guy who put a rock in a hat.
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“Think of it this way, if the Book of Mormon is a second witness of Christ and His divinity the witness of this being so/true can only be found through the witness of the Holy Ghost while immersing oneself IN the book with a prayer in your heart wanting to know if what it says is actually true…anachronisms and all.”

Again, for some reason you get a good feeling about the book.

Which part gives you that good feeling?
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Limnor wrote:
Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:20 am
“That God(s) orchestrated the creation/building of this world that we inhabit. That there is purpose and meaning that goes beyond the here and now. That we can continue to progress and become more like God the Father. I could go on. Essentially, for me, the CofJCofLDS actually makes sense in its overall theology.”

Most of this has underpinnings within the Book of Abraham as its ancient source. If the Book of Abraham is fictional, then all of this lacks a firm foundation.

So while you like it and it sounds good, the sole source appears to be Joseph. The guy who put a rock in a hat.
That's the million-dollar question, isn't it?

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Limnor wrote:
Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:21 am
“Think of it this way, if the Book of Mormon is a second witness of Christ and His divinity the witness of this being so/true can only be found through the witness of the Holy Ghost while immersing oneself IN the book with a prayer in your heart wanting to know if what it says is actually true…anachronisms and all.”

Again, for some reason you get a good feeling about the book.

Which part gives you that good feeling?
I'm not sure that this question really encapsulates what it means to read/understand and have a belief/testimony of the Book of Mormon. What you are doing is essentially asking for a 'proof text' without actually reading the book yourself. I'm assuming at this point that maybe you haven't read it all the way through?

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Well you are mistaken. I have read it.
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Limnor wrote:
Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:32 am
Well you are mistaken. I have read it.
Yep. I just saw that on another thread. Great!

I would be interested in your response to a couple of questions I asked on the other thread.

Thanks.

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Limnor wrote:
Sat Sep 27, 2025 1:32 am
Well you are mistaken. I have read it.
You've read the Book of Mormon and believe that it is true. Do you need to "proof text" (use certain scripture references and exegeses) it to have that belief/understanding? Or is your understanding/belief of its truthfulness based on something else?

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It’s based on prayer and historical research.
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One more time - it’s “true,” but not like you think.
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“And it came to pass that on the morrow, when the multitude was gathered together, behold, Nephi and his brother whom he had raised from the dead, whose name was Timothy, and also his son, whose name was Jonas, and also Mathoni, and Mathonihah, his brother, and Kumen, and Kumenonhi, and Jeremiah, and Shemnon, and Jonas, and Zedekiah, and Isaiah—now these were the names of the disciples whom Jesus had chosen—and it came to pass that they went forth and stood in the midst of the multitude.”

These guys aren’t ancient.

They are the companions of Joseph “translated” into an ancient setting.
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