Mass Shooting at Mormon Church In Michigan

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Re: Mass Shooting at Mormon Church In Michigan

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Marcus wrote:
Wed Oct 01, 2025 12:17 am
ceeboo wrote:
Tue Sep 30, 2025 11:59 pm
Let me guess: My claim again?

LOL!
You responded oddly (and twice!) to the same little bit, so I'm happy to clarify.

In trying to understand "why you would continue to come to a forum where you are so vocal about your dislike of the participants," your explanation that you see hatred as a reason for why a person would "enjoy ridiculing, mocking, and disparaging" others would seem to encompass your behavior and reasoning as well.

I still don't understand the draw to come to a community that you clearly think is beneath you, that is full of people you seem to despise, just to repeatedly tell the people there how much you dislike them. It doesn't seem like a rational use of your time.
These claims leave me no choice but to conclude that sight isn't your only struggle. Reading isn't one of your strengths either.

Maybe take a few moments and come up with a new attack strategy?
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Re: Mass Shooting at Mormon Church In Michigan

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Gadianton wrote:
Wed Oct 01, 2025 12:37 am
6. So even if I don't directly blame people like that when some Joe Sixpack in the pew with PTSD decides that it would be a great idea to terrorize and execute Latter-day Saints, I think it's fair to say that they have contributed to the situation--not just by voicing sincerely held opinions--but by creating a culture where dishonesty about your religious rivals is normalized.
This is where the big crossover is between counter-cult thinking and right-wing politics. He's probably more invested in the "dishonesty' as an apologist than I am. There is that, but his leaders do kind of lead the way in terms of dishonesty. It's more about Satanic panic sensationalism. That's the crossover. He can legitimately claim that his leaders don't get out there and actively make other faiths targets. Rush Limbaugh, Tucker Carlson, and Jack Chick are all on the same wavelength. It's a lot of shock and conspiracies and nonsense. Folks like my right-wing friend, and several board members here, don't have the capacity to get beyond that. You can see that in the inability to contribute rationally to topics that aren't political.

People with stable lives like my friend has are able to compartmentalize so that the collective action of their awful beliefs screw over innocent people, but don't cause problems for themselves; well, he's not a farmer, at least. However, people with mental illness and prone to literalism don't understand how it is that everyone can just sit back and not take action. Sanford's perspective is not irrational if we're accepting religious beliefs literally. Dan Peterson has gone on and on about how death doesn't really matter because of this very real next life, that's forever. From the EV perspective, Mormons are likely going to hell. Some EVs give them an out as "heathens", but the evil works of baptism and all that don't bring salvation. Confession is made with the mouth unto salvation. The usual belief is that Mormons are going to hell.

Another popular belief within right-wing Christianity and certainly the Heritage Foundation basically running the country right now is dominionism. Dominionism says using force to make people Christians is just dandy. Hell is a long time, and so if a person is forced to accept Jesus then it's only better for them. In fact, giving someone the chance to accept Jesus at gunpoint is technically better than the beliefs of many of his conservative peers who believe when Trump gets his purge going, democrats will be executed, presumably without the request to accept Jesus. And so Sanford's beliefs aren't even the most extreme, he just acted upon them literally.

If even one person he demanded to accept Jesus did so at gunpoint, that person is saved (see Holy Joe from Jack Chick), and so it's possible that his actions resulted in a net good, if you look at it from the barebone facts as many evangelicals understand them.
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Re: Mass Shooting at Mormon Church In Michigan

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how the F would I know?
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Re: Mass Shooting at Mormon Church In Michigan

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Gadianton wrote:
Wed Oct 01, 2025 12:54 am
how the F would I know?
You said he and Rush were on the same wavelength.
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Re: Mass Shooting at Mormon Church In Michigan

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ceeboo wrote:
Wed Oct 01, 2025 12:41 am
Marcus wrote:
Wed Oct 01, 2025 12:17 am
You responded oddly (and twice!) to the same little bit, so I'm happy to clarify.

In trying to understand "why you would continue to come to a forum where you are so vocal about your dislike of the participants," your explanation that you see hatred as a reason for why a person would "enjoy ridiculing, mocking, and disparaging" others would seem to encompass your behavior and reasoning as well.

I still don't understand the draw to come to a community that you clearly think is beneath you, that is full of people you seem to despise, just to repeatedly tell the people there how much you dislike them. It doesn't seem like a rational use of your time.
These claims leave me no choice but to conclude that sight isn't your only struggle. Reading isn't one of your strengths either.

Maybe take a few moments and come up with a new attack strategy?
:lol: It's no skin off my nose if you want to come to a forum just to repeatedly tell the people there how much you dislike them! Everyone's got to have a hobby, right? Have at it, cowboy! : D
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Re: Mass Shooting at Mormon Church In Michigan

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Marcus wrote:
Wed Oct 01, 2025 2:10 am
It's no skin off my nose if you want to come to a forum just to repeatedly tell the people there how much you dislike them!
I dislike you so much.
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Re: Mass Shooting at Mormon Church In Michigan

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ceeboo wrote:
Wed Oct 01, 2025 2:34 am
Marcus wrote:
Wed Oct 01, 2025 2:10 am
It's no skin off my nose if you want to come to a forum just to repeatedly tell the people there how much you dislike them!
I dislike you so much.
:lol: Is that your Christianity speaking?
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Re: Mass Shooting at Mormon Church In Michigan

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Marcus wrote:
Wed Oct 01, 2025 3:19 am
ceeboo wrote:
Wed Oct 01, 2025 2:34 am
I dislike you so much.
:lol: Is that your Christianity speaking?
You really don't have a clue about what's happening, do you?

Amazing.
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Re: Mass Shooting at Mormon Church In Michigan

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ceeboo wrote:
Wed Oct 01, 2025 4:05 am
Marcus wrote:
Wed Oct 01, 2025 3:19 am
:lol: Is that your Christianity speaking?
You really don't have a clue about what's happening, do you?

Amazing.
:lol: Aw, bless your cute little heart, ceebie. You just keep on with your online hating of people in the name of your religion. If it keeps you off the streets it can't be all bad. : D
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Re: Mass Shooting at Mormon Church In Michigan

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Marcus wrote:
Wed Oct 01, 2025 3:19 am
ceeboo wrote:
Wed Oct 01, 2025 2:34 am
I dislike you so much.
:lol: Is that your Christianity speaking?
I hope the FCC doesn't ban ceeboo.
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