The Golden Age Of Temple Hyper-Expansion Concludes As God Hits The Snooze Button On Temple Announcements
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It’s an objectively unwieldy name. And John Pack Lambert was expressing his frustration with the shortened “LDS” being used.
I think LDS and Mormon are both perfectly appropriate. Pick your favorite if you think one is offensive.
I think LDS and Mormon are both perfectly appropriate. Pick your favorite if you think one is offensive.
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Except that, for Mormons:sock puppet wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 3:03 pmSounds like the Mormon Lord has truly hit the "pause" button on His promise that His gospel shall be as the stone cut out of the mountain without hands which would roll forth and fill the whole earth, as Daniel saw in vision (see Daniel 2:31–45; D&C 65:2).
- fill does not mean fill, and
- the whole earth does not mean the whole earth
Only an idiosyncratic reading of "fill the whole earth" makes it "true".
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After Nelson announced ~11000 Temples I'm guessing Oaks just wants to zag and put his own mark on history. No way he's going to be able to announce more temples so why try? Better to focus on a different facet in his short time as President. Bro already headed for 95.
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My bad. I've been a FoMo so long, I've forgot how to speak Mormon.malkie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 7:13 pmExcept that, for Mormons:sock puppet wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 3:03 pmSounds like the Mormon Lord has truly hit the "pause" button on His promise that His gospel shall be as the stone cut out of the mountain without hands which would roll forth and fill the whole earth, as Daniel saw in vision (see Daniel 2:31–45; D&C 65:2).
- fill does not mean fill, and
- the whole earth does not mean the whole earth
Only an idiosyncratic reading of "fill the whole earth" makes it "true".
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Oaks has a heckuva legacy opportunity to take the equivalent of the temple building craze funds, and redirecting them to humanitarian projects. Imagine, if the equivalent budget and volunteer hours of temples (building and operation) were put into humanitarian type buildings/projects.Bond wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 8:16 pmAfter Nelson announced ~11000 Temples I'm guessing Oaks just wants to zag and put his own mark on history. No way he's going to be able to announce more temples so why try? Better to focus on a different facet in his short time as President. Bro already headed for 95.
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Wouldn't that be the Christian thing to do? Don't count on Oaks doing that.Doctor Steuss wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 9:19 pmOaks has a heckuva legacy opportunity to take the equivalent of the temple building craze funds, and redirecting them to humanitarian projects. Imagine, if the equivalent budget and volunteer hours of temples (building and operation) were put into humanitarian type buildings/projects.Bond wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 8:16 pmAfter Nelson announced ~11000 Temples I'm guessing Oaks just wants to zag and put his own mark on history. No way he's going to be able to announce more temples so why try? Better to focus on a different facet in his short time as President. Bro already headed for 95.
100+ addiction recovery centers.
100+ subsidized healthcare facilities.
100+ foodbanks.
100+ subsidized job training facilities.
100+ affordable housing projects.
Tens of millions of lives lifted out of addiction, poverty, hunger, suffering, and homelessness. Not as sexy as a giant edifice to primarily do activities for the benefit of dead people, but it’d be an incredible Christ-like legacy to leave behind.
"There will come a time when the rich own all the media, and it will be impossible for the public to make an informed opinion." Albert Einstein, ~1949 "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire
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Bednar has said repeatedly that they are not a humanitarian organization but a temple and covenant building religion. They feel fine ignoring the poor and downtrodden.Doctor Steuss wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 9:19 pmOaks has a heckuva legacy opportunity to take the equivalent of the temple building craze funds, and redirecting them to humanitarian projects. Imagine, if the equivalent budget and volunteer hours of temples (building and operation) were put into humanitarian type buildings/projects.Bond wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 8:16 pmAfter Nelson announced ~11000 Temples I'm guessing Oaks just wants to zag and put his own mark on history. No way he's going to be able to announce more temples so why try? Better to focus on a different facet in his short time as President. Bro already headed for 95.
100+ addiction recovery centers.
100+ subsidized healthcare facilities.
100+ foodbanks.
100+ subsidized job training facilities.
100+ affordable housing projects.
Tens of millions of lives lifted out of addiction, poverty, hunger, suffering, and homelessness. Not as sexy as a giant edifice to primarily do activities for the benefit of dead people, but it’d be an incredible Christ-like legacy to leave behind.
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Well, I mean, they're just tryin ta emulate Jesus dontcha know? We never read of him working with the poor and downtrodden. Hell he spent all his time in the temple and Herod's palace chumming with the big boys didn't he? Making sure they got their funds from Rome and all that. I'm sure that's part of the "missing scripture" that we don't have, so its legit.Rivendale wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 9:53 pmBednar has said repeatedly that they are not a humanitarian organization but a temple and covenant building religion. They feel fine ignoring the poor and downtrodden.Doctor Steuss wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 9:19 pm
Oaks has a heckuva legacy opportunity to take the equivalent of the temple building craze funds, and redirecting them to humanitarian projects. Imagine, if the equivalent budget and volunteer hours of temples (building and operation) were put into humanitarian type buildings/projects.
100+ addiction recovery centers.
100+ subsidized healthcare facilities.
100+ foodbanks.
100+ subsidized job training facilities.
100+ affordable housing projects.
Tens of millions of lives lifted out of addiction, poverty, hunger, suffering, and homelessness. Not as sexy as a giant edifice to primarily do activities for the benefit of dead people, but it’d be an incredible Christ-like legacy to leave behind.
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I will write what I wrote many years ago: the Mormons don't need more temples. They have land and can conduct their ceremonies outside, under the stars, at sunrise or sunset. This thought was reinforced the other day when I saw an image on social media of a Christian assembly outdoors in a beautiful hills-type rock formation. It almost looked like Southern Utah at sunset with numerous people watching the presentation. They were bundled up, so it was cold, but the assembly looked packed. For 19th-century Mormons, the sun, moon, and stars—creation—were really important, and they could emphasize that under the stars.
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Nelson seems to have wanted to outdo his two predecessors, especially Hinckley, who embarrassed Nelson on occasion. Now that Nelson is no longer around to keep up that competition, sanity will return on a couple of fronts: temple construction and hopefully the name Mormon.Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 12:13 amA concise, 30-second clip from today’s General Conference has captured the attention of Reddit, featuring Elder Oaks advising members on the need for the church to slow down and pull in the reins concerning temple construction. The statement, which signals an abrupt shift in the pace of expansion, was immediately reinforced by Oak's declaration that there will be no new temple announcements:
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comme ... ack_a_bit/
The timing is exquisitely delicious. Not even a week after Rusty's passing, the Lord apparently decided that the temple expansion needs to slow down. Call me cynical, but the immediate shift in God's priorities seems to suggest one of two things: either Jesus has a surprisingly short attention span, or Rusty was leading a massive, uninspired real estate boom.
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