Not Prisoners of Mother England

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The country has been here before. End of the Golden Age, Wilson, and WWI. Eerily similar, I think.
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Morley wrote:
Sun Oct 19, 2025 12:36 am
Trump populism had nothing but complaint and grievance. (Of course now that it's been highjacked by Project 2025 types, that's dangerously changed--but that's whole another story.)


Democrats right now have nothing. No agenda, no plans, no direction, no leadership. Only feeble resistance. Maybe something will come of it. I dunno.
This.

I remember back in the 1980s folks used to say the Democratic Party had lost its soul and the Republican Party had lost its mind. Now I think they have collectively managed to lose both, but at the moment the Republicans are the more dangerous of the two (and by a considerable margin).
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Morley wrote:
Sun Oct 19, 2025 12:36 am
Trump populism had nothing but complaint and grievance.
Oh boy. I can see why you say that. I can see the path. But that is a loose and lazy interpretation. To your point - the border and immigration can be framed as a bitch or a plan, using the same exact words.

The Democrats are relying on Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Newsom and Pritzker. And Jimmy Kimmel. Should be great. Maybe Warren will run for president and not be such a nuisance to Schumer.
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Bret Ripley wrote:
Sun Oct 19, 2025 12:56 am
Morley wrote:
Sun Oct 19, 2025 12:36 am
Trump populism had nothing but complaint and grievance. (Of course now that it's been highjacked by Project 2025 types, that's dangerously changed--but that's whole another story.)


Democrats right now have nothing. No agenda, no plans, no direction, no leadership. Only feeble resistance. Maybe something will come of it. I dunno.
This.

I remember back in the 1980s folks used to say the Democratic Party had lost its soul and the Republican Party had lost its mind. Now I think they have collectively managed to lose both, but at the moment the Republicans are the more dangerous of the two (and by a considerable margin).
You forgot to say fascist, nazi and racist. LOL.
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Whiskey wrote:
Sun Oct 19, 2025 1:03 am
Bret Ripley wrote:
Sun Oct 19, 2025 12:56 am
This.

I remember back in the 1980s folks used to say the Democratic Party had lost its soul and the Republican Party had lost its mind. Now I think they have collectively managed to lose both, but at the moment the Republicans are the more dangerous of the two (and by a considerable margin).
You forgot to say fascist, nazi and racist.
I don't think most Republicans are fascists, nazis, or racists. It concerns me that these things may not be deal-breakers for some of them.
LOL.
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Bret Ripley wrote:
Sun Oct 19, 2025 1:38 am
Whiskey wrote:
Sun Oct 19, 2025 1:03 am


You forgot to say fascist, nazi and racist.
I don't think most Republicans are fascists, nazis, or racists. It concerns me that these things may not be deal-breakers for some of them.
LOL.
Sure, if you like. Don't let me stop you.
Well, gawdaaaaamn, Bret Ripley. Aren't you just a bouquet of wonderful. How wonderful you are to not think most republicans are fascists, nazis and racists. Thank you so much and bless your heart so much. And your concern that something less than most republicans wanting to be fascist, nazi and racist is sincerely sincere. The world is a better place if you just think not most republicans are nazis but just the most dangerous.

I don't think most republicans give two craps who thinks any republicans are fascist nazi racist antivax blah blah blah blah whatever. I was just kidding when I said you were wonderful for caring. At this point, calling someone that did not vote for Monica Lewinky's ex-boyfriend's wife, or Willie Brown's piece, a nazi fascist racist or dangerous just means someone disagrees. Doesn't mean a goddamn thing.
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Whiskey wrote:
Sun Oct 19, 2025 2:50 am
Bret Ripley wrote:
Sun Oct 19, 2025 1:38 am
Sure, if you like. Don't let me stop you.
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Whiskey wrote:
Sun Oct 19, 2025 2:50 am
At this point, calling someone that did not vote for Monica Lewinky's ex-boyfriend's wife, or Willie Brown's piece, a nazi fascist racist or dangerous just means someone disagrees.
It makes sense that they probably disagreed with whatever Nazi, racist, fascist or dangerous things that were said.

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canpakes wrote:
Sun Oct 19, 2025 4:22 am
It makes sense that they probably disagreed with whatever Nazi, racist, fascist or dangerous things that were said.

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It's redundant to call Republicans racist, just like it's redundant to call Republicans stupid. Racism and stupidity are the GOP brand (I'm being redundant myself - racism and stupidity are the same thing).

It's good when someone comes out defending the current GOP, because then you know you're dealing with someone who's slow and not really worth considering. You just politely dismiss their inevitable lunatic rantings.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Sat Oct 18, 2025 8:39 pm
Just got back from the local No Kings protest. That was one of the best experiences I've had in a while. It's lovely to see all the local people who aren't drowning in Kool-Aid. There are plenty of educated people still among us that actually understand the founding of this country. The signs and costumes were fantastic.

And I actually found it pretty funny when a MAGAte would drive by giving us all the finger. It's nice to know who the local idiots are. A common theme was pointing out how angry MAGAtes were as they drove by. We protesters were all smiling. One lady was in the habit of yelling loudly at them, "Have a nice day!" with the same tone as someone yelling, "Get off my lawn!" Made us laugh every time.

All in all, an excellent experience.
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