It sounds like he studied these girls very carefully to remember all that detail.Todd C. wrote: On her first Sunday she came to church dressed in a simple, nice blouse and knee-length skirt set off with a light, button-up sweater. She wore hose and dress shoes, and her hair was combed simply but with care. Her overall appearance created an impression of youthful grace. Unfortunately, she immediately felt out of place. It seemed like all the other young women her age or near her age were dressed in casual skirts, some rather distant from the knee; tight T-shirt-like tops that barely met the top of their skirts at the waist; no socks or stockings; and clunky sneakers or flip-flops. One would have hoped that seeing the new girl, the other girls would have realized how inappropriate their manner of dress was for a chapel and for the Sabbath day and immediately changed for the better. Sad to say, however, they did not, and it was the visitor who, in order to fit in, adopted the fashion of her host ward.
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Here's a link to the original talk.Gadianton wrote: ↑Mon Oct 20, 2025 11:36 pmIt sounds like he studied these girls very carefully to remember all that detail.Todd C. wrote: On her first Sunday she came to church dressed in a simple, nice blouse and knee-length skirt set off with a light, button-up sweater. She wore hose and dress shoes, and her hair was combed simply but with care. Her overall appearance created an impression of youthful grace. Unfortunately, she immediately felt out of place. It seemed like all the other young women her age or near her age were dressed in casual skirts, some rather distant from the knee; tight T-shirt-like tops that barely met the top of their skirts at the waist; no socks or stockings; and clunky sneakers or flip-flops. One would have hoped that seeing the new girl, the other girls would have realized how inappropriate their manner of dress was for a chapel and for the Sabbath day and immediately changed for the better. Sad to say, however, they did not, and it was the visitor who, in order to fit in, adopted the fashion of her host ward.
https://speeches.BYU.edu/talks/d-todd-c ... se-sacred/
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Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
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So whatever role DTC had in that ward, he obviously allowed a dress culture among the young women that DTC disdained. I wonder why he didn't change that?I Have Questions wrote: ↑Tue Oct 21, 2025 3:15 pmHere's a link to the original talk.
https://speeches.BYU.edu/talks/d-todd-c ... se-sacred/
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