Meathead is Dead

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Whiskey wrote:
Wed Dec 17, 2025 9:02 pm
Gunnar wrote:
Wed Dec 17, 2025 8:59 pm
Because there have been documented cases of people found to have been innocent only after having been already executed. This obviously can't be reversed once it has happened. Studies have shown that as much as 10% of incarcerated people, including even on death row, are actually innocent of the crimes for which they were incarcerated. There is no denying the fact that there have been rare cases of innocent people being executed. Some argue that these cases are extremely rare, but I don't care how rare they are. If it can happen even once, either through honest mistake or malice by corrupt officials refusing to admit having been mistaken or having some vendetta against the condemned, that is, to me, an argument against capital punishment that Trump's any conceivable argument in favor of it!
Life without parole shares these risks.
But life without parole doesn't necessarily preclude the possibility that one's life may be saved by eventually being proven innocent and being released before dying.
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Whiskey wrote:
Wed Dec 17, 2025 7:46 pm
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Wed Dec 17, 2025 7:28 pm
Deranged wingnuttery from deranged MAGA wingnuts? Yes, of course. Why would we expect anything else from the people you follow on X?
I don't follow that guy. Don't let facts slow you down though.
Glad we can agree that the guy is a wingnut spouting wingnuttery. Right?
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Equality wrote:
Wed Dec 17, 2025 9:20 pm
Whiskey wrote:
Wed Dec 17, 2025 7:46 pm


I don't follow that guy. Don't let facts slow you down though.
Glad we can agree that the guy is a wingnut spouting wingnuttery. Right?
No clue. I don't follow that guy. Just saying there will be more of this. A lot more.
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Gunnar wrote:
Wed Dec 17, 2025 9:14 pm
Whiskey wrote:
Wed Dec 17, 2025 9:02 pm


Life without parole shares these risks.
But life without parole doesn't necessarily preclude the possibility that one's life may be saved by eventually being proven innocent and being released before dying.

May be worse though. Life without parole doesn't share equal appeal process. And, life without hope or parole may be worse than death.
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Whiskey wrote:
Wed Dec 17, 2025 9:02 pm
Gunnar wrote:
Wed Dec 17, 2025 8:59 pm

Because there have been documented cases of people found to have been innocent only after having been already executed. This obviously can't be reversed once it has happened. Studies have shown that as much as 10% of incarcerated people, including even on death row, are actually innocent of the crimes for which they were incarcerated. There is no denying the fact that there have been rare cases of innocent people being executed. Some argue that these cases are extremely rare, but I don't care how rare they are. If it can happen even once, either through honest mistake or malice by corrupt officials refusing to admit having been mistaken or having some vendetta against the condemned, that is, to me, an argument against capital punishment that trumps any conceivable argument in favor of it!
Life without parole shares these risks.
It’s easier to mount a challenge to a perceived wrongful incarceration when you’re still alive.
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Comment on the site's auto-correct function. Apparently whenever anyone types in the verb "trumps" the auto-correct function insists on correcting it to "Trump's". This is unnecessary overkill, don't you think?
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canpakes wrote:
Wed Dec 17, 2025 9:33 pm
Whiskey wrote:
Wed Dec 17, 2025 9:02 pm
Life without parole shares these risks.
It’s easier to mount a challenge to a perceived wrongful incarceration when you’re still alive.
Exactly! This is the more important consideration, I think.
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Whiskey wrote:
Wed Dec 17, 2025 4:53 pm
I am a big fan of capital punishment. Doesn't seem even mildly more cruel than life without parole.

If prosecutors weren't so damned corrupt and judges weren't retards we would have more appropriate judicial outcomes.

Also. Sex offenders who hurt kids can be given a capital punishment. That is fine.
You do NOT want a death penalty case.
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Gunnar wrote:
Wed Dec 17, 2025 9:42 pm
canpakes wrote:
Wed Dec 17, 2025 9:33 pm
It’s easier to mount a challenge to a perceived wrongful incarceration when you’re still alive.
Exactly! This is the more important consideration, I think.
Seems it may be easier to mount an appeal from death row than from wherever the LWOP folks are.

ETA: a brief google and AI search showed massive and significant differences in the appeal process for LWOP and Death Row. Advantage Death Row.
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Gunnar wrote:
Wed Dec 17, 2025 9:40 pm
Comment on the site's auto-correct function. Apparently whenever anyone types in the verb "Trump's" the auto-correct function insists on correcting it to "Trump's". This is unnecessary overkill, don't you think?
See! It just happened again with this post! trumps trumps trumps. There is, after all a legitimate verb "Trump" in the English language that is not capitalized! Is this yet another weird manifestation of TDS?
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