Deraliment from "Trump's Response To A Factory Worker Who Called for Epstein Transparency"

[ajax18]

If Trump had not followed through on any of his promises to his base, you'd be praising him. Democrat hatred of Trump means he must be doing something right as far as I'm concerned, given how fervently Democrats hate Trump supporters and our America first agenda.

If Trump followed through on his economic promises, I would praise him for those successes. I even have a thread tracking progress on his many promises. It currently needs an update for some added since his election, such as his tariff rebate/stimulus checks (which seem more of a ‘you get a toy pony, please vote for me’ bribe than practical policy … I’d wager you’d agree with that).

Besides twisting the screws down on immigrants regardless of their status - and the related rejection of immigration in general - what are the current Administration’s successes, and how have you and your neighbors benefited economically?

How is our debt future looking, now that the Administration has continued to increase it?

How is having elected a potential child diddler a demonstration of Republican commitment to values?

Not that I'd expect Jersey Girl's partisan brain to be capable of noticing, but you're the one going off topic here, not me. We could dedicate an entire thread to your questions. But the short answer from those on the right that have issues with Trumpism, is that he's not a Democrat and that's all it took Ben Shapiro to put millions into his campaign after not supporting Trump in the primaries.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Ah, I forgot that this poster is actually evil. Let it be known henceforth and forever that Ajax18 doesn’t want any of his politicians who screwed kids to be held accountable for their actions and behavior.

^ that dude thinks he’s right with Jesus

Very disingenuous. I expected as much from you. Since you can't answer the question, don't expect me to believe for one minute that there is anything incriminating in the Epstein files against Trump, given that Joe Biden's administration, which carried out more partisan political prosecution and abuse of the legal system than any administration in history, declined to charge Trump with anything related to Epstein.

Ajax18, who never answers questions and constantly shifts the goalposts, is upset someone treats him like he treats others. The board will note that he still maintains his position that he doesn’t care about men damned kids as long as they’re Republicans. Sick.

Didn’t Ajax think Democrat politicians were abusing children at a pizza joint in DC? What happened, Ajax? I thought you wanted to protect kids when Biden was in office!

[Chap]

Now they want to call Republicans immoral because we don't care about Donald Trump's sex life much when we consider everything else he's achieved for us.

I am absolutely NOT interested in whatever it is we might call 'President Trump's sex life'. The very idea of having to think about it in any detail repels me.

But if the evidence in the Epstein files suggests plausibly that Trump has, in the course of what was apparently a close acquaintance with Epstein, broken the law by having sexual contact with a trafficked under-age girl or girls, it would be very proper for him to be put under criminal investigation, and if convicted suitably punished.

I take it you would agree, as the law-abiding father of a daughter, that under those circumstances that would be the proper moral and legal thing to happen, and that you would wish it to take place?

Yes, I know, Bill Clinton and so on. Prosecute anybody that the evidence points to. But It is Trump I am asking about here, as you well know. So please answer the question I have asked.

But if the evidence in the Epstein files suggests plausibly that Trump has, in the course of what was apparently a close acquaintance with Epstein, broken the law by having sexual contact with a trafficked under-age girl or girls, it would be very proper for him to be put under criminal investigation, and if convicted suitably punished.

Sex with a minor would have been a lot stronger case than misfiling hush money payment to a hooker. If Trump is in the Epstein files, the Biden administration would have known that. Why do you think the Biden administration chose much weaker cases requiring such legal gymnastics in order to stop Trump from running in the 2024 election? If incriminating evidence against Trump in the Epstein files existed, why didn't Democrats bring charges on Epstein when they held power? The saviors of democracy clearly tried to interfere and disenfranchise MAGA voters any way they could.

I take it you would agree, as the law-abiding father of a daughter, that under those circumstances that would be the proper moral and legal thing to happen, and that you would wish it to take place?

Why do you think these young female victims looked so happy in all the Epstein pictures?

So no answer to my question. Oh well.

The question you put at the end of your post is ... various adjectives occur to me. But let me just say that you appear to have paid no attention to what has often been said by young women who have been subject to prolonged sexual coercion.

Basically, you reach a stage where you feel the only way to stop things getting worse is to play nicey-nicey. If Epstein or Maxwell tell you to be 'friendly' to one of their important contacts, you do it and you do it smiling. See for instance the picture of Giuffre with Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor's* sweaty arm round her waist.

What did you expect the poor friendless girl to do? Scowl and raise the middle finger to the camera?

*Yes, he is now only that. No more 'Prince' or 'Duke'. He has been formally deleted from the nobility and the royal title he once held. I'd appreciate it if the US could do a Mossad-style sting and take him back to the states to be tried. Then we'd be completely rid of him. (Just joking, but I can dream).

[canpakes]

If Trump followed through on his economic promises, I would praise him for those successes. I even have a thread tracking progress on his many promises. It currently needs an update for some added since his election, such as his tariff rebate/stimulus checks (which seem more of a ‘you get a toy pony, please vote for me’ bribe than practical policy … I’d wager you’d agree with that).

Besides twisting the screws down on immigrants regardless of their status - and the related rejection of immigration in general - what are the current Administration’s successes, and how have you and your neighbors benefited economically?

How is our debt future looking, now that the Administration has continued to increase it?

How is having elected a potential child diddler a demonstration of Republican commitment to values?

Not that I'd expect Jersey Girl's partisan brain to be capable of noticing, but you're the one going off topic here, not me.

I agree. In fact, I saw your post as still relating to the topic because it touched on the Epstein issue. I’m stretching this side conversation more off topic, but Epstein is still part of my questions.

We could dedicate an entire thread to your questions. But the short answer from those on the right that have issues with Trumpism, is that he's not a Democrat and that's all it took Ben Shapiro to put millions into his campaign after not supporting Trump in the primaries.

Noted. I take it that you don’t have an answer to the questions that I asked, or you’re not ready to give any. That’s your prerogative. I don’t have much more to go on then aside from seeing MAGA being primarily driven by their distaste of immigrants rather than any underlying desire to make life better or more affordable for Americans.

[canpakes]

Since you can't answer the question, don't expect me to believe for one minute that there is anything incriminating in the Epstein files against Trump, given that Joe Biden's administration, which carried out more partisan political prosecution and abuse of the legal system than any administration in history, declined to charge Trump with anything related to Epstein.

I don’t think you believe your claim about Biden, given that Trump’s DoJ has investigated or indicted a much longer list, yet tends to get nothing out of it since the reason for the investigations are pretty much that Trump doesn’t like them.

Just ask Jerome Powell, Lisa Cook, Mark Kelly, Adam Schiff, Eric Swalwell, Chris Christie, Jack Smith, Miles Taylor, Christopher Krebs, James Comey, Letitia James, or John Bolton.

Try a more plausible-sounding derail. : )

[Jersey Girl]

What's this in the quote boxes, Ajax?

Not that I'd expect Jersey Girl's partisan brain to be capable of noticing, but you're the one going off topic here, not me.

See to your own brain, buddy.

[ajax18]

Noted. I take it that you don’t have an answer to the questions that I asked, or you’re not ready to give any. That’s your prerogative. I don’t have much more to go on then aside from seeing MAGA being primarily driven by their distaste of immigrants rather than any underlying desire to make life better or more affordable for Americans.

Setting a limit on immigration and enforcing it means putting the American people first. There is no distaste for immigrants. We help them in as much as we can and are willing to sacrifice to do so. But we don't allow the immigrants to dictate how much and what we will provide, which you seem to view as an example of being hateful to immigrants. And we don't allow the chamber of commerce and the uber wealthy demand that we bring in more immigrants because they're unwilling to pay American citizens an American wage. And it turns out that this platform was preferred by a slim majority of Americans. If the Democrat party wants to take power again, they're going to need to consider adopting an America first platform. They may even have to consider reaching out to working class white voters. Gavin Newsome is trying to do that. But I doubt the radical left will allow it nor do I think any Republican voters would ever trust him nor should they if they're smart.

But yes, you see it happening. You see the millionaire construction contractors crying about having to pay their carpenters $20/hour in Louisiana, Contrary to pre election liberal claims, Trump is enforcing the border as promised and it's got the left really pissed off. You see housing prices starting to come down as illegal immigrants are sent home. We've seen billions upon billions of waste, fraud, and abuse being exposed that Democrats have been able to hide from taxpayers while they remained in power for far too long. You see gasoline and energy prices coming down as the US moves away from the green new scam. The difference in electricity cost between the US and climate change handicapped Europe gives the US a decided advantage in the artificial intelligence race. And contrary to my own concerns on the tariffs, Trump's tariffs have proven to be a stroke of genius in negotiating better deals for working American people. And as a working American citizen, that means you Canpakes. You are benefitting from Donald Trump's policies. And the beauty of it is that if you really feel guilty about having a border and enforcing it, about taking out Iran's nuclear facility rather than giving them pallets of cash, about negotiating better trade deals for America, you're free to send as much of it as you would like to Mexico, Iran, China, or whoever you think has been wronged by Trump's America first policies.

[ajax18]

What's this in the quote boxes, Ajax?

Not that I'd expect Jersey Girl's partisan brain to be capable of noticing, but you're the one going off topic here, not me.

See to your own brain, buddy.

You use your accusations of going off topic to shut down dissent and avoid questions you don't want to answer. It's similar to the Democrat tactic of playing the race card when they want to shut someone up who is exposing their lies. So I'll ask it again, "If there is anything that incriminates Donald Trump in the Epstein files, why didn't the Biden administration release it and prosecute Donald Trump for it before the election?"

[Philo Sofee]

Ajax: It doesn't bother me...

Yes, we knew it wouldn't.

[Philo Sofee]

I'm not a psychologist, but if Biden really did call Drowsy Donald a SICK F***, then he's passed my cognitive exam with flying colors.