I have been under the impression that Graham has been a driving force of this sort for decades now. Still one should be taken aback by comparing a quite small island to a large nation of 90 million inhabitants a substantial portion of which are ready to fight an American invasion.Kishkumen wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2026 11:10 amWhat the hell do they have on Graham to make him abandon anything resembling a conscience? He has become one of the vilest people in politics. All because he does not want to admit he is gay?Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2026 9:06 pmSenator “ladybugs” Graham from South Carolina just said, in effect, that he’s willing to burn through troops to take Iran because we took Iwo Jima.
Hey, MAGA. Are you happy to send your kids into Iran because Senator’s Graham’s stated allegiance is to Israel?
Do you actually hate trans people and browns so much you’re willing to spend trillions more and your children’s blood for another foreign entanglement?
REALLY?!?!?!?!?!?
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OK, so he has been a lunatic as long as you can remember.huckelberry wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2026 6:24 pmI have been under the impression that Graham has been a driving force of this sort for decades now. Still one should be taken aback by comparing a quite small island to a large nation of 90 million inhabitants a substantial portion of which are ready to fight an American invasion.
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Trump keeps saying ‘nobody’ knew or expected things that lots of people knew or expected.Chap wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2026 9:24 amThe US is led by a closed clique of Trump loyalists who did not realise that closing the strait of Hormuz was an obvious and easily executed retaliation tactic for the Iranians? Lord help the US, and the rest of us too.Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2026 10:04 pmhttps://www.instagram.com/reel/DV9TxKZkVBw/
Apparently the Trumps were shocked Iran fought back according to the Trumps. Do you damned MAGA idiots ever tire of proving everyone correct in their assessment of your faculties?
The 'closed clique' point is an important one: Trump does not like to hear the advice of people who might tell him inconvenient things. So he no longer takes the expert advice of military experts before launching actions of the kind he launched on Iran. Since his first term we already knew that he does not read briefing papers, and prefers short word of mouth - but his 'nobody expected this' claim shows that he is now getting NO direct advice from the US military.
And he is the commander in chief. Doesn't look good, does it?
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Yes, this is one of the stupidest and most dangerous things about Trump. He refuses to even listen to people, however knowledgeable or qualified, who have the effrontery to try to advise or tell him about what he doesn't already know or thinks he knows, or casts any legitimate doubt, no matter how conclusive, on what he would rather believe or have his sycophantic supporters believe.Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2026 6:47 pmTrump keeps saying ‘nobody’ knew or expected things that lots of people knew or expected.
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Well, nobody that he knows......Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2026 6:47 pmTrump keeps saying ‘nobody’ knew or expected things that lots of people knew or expected.Chap wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2026 9:24 am
The US is led by a closed clique of Trump loyalists who did not realise that closing the strait of Hormuz was an obvious and easily executed retaliation tactic for the Iranians? Lord help the US, and the rest of us too.
The 'closed clique' point is an important one: Trump does not like to hear the advice of people who might tell him inconvenient things. So he no longer takes the expert advice of military experts before launching actions of the kind he launched on Iran. Since his first term we already knew that he does not read briefing papers, and prefers short word of mouth - but his 'nobody expected this' claim shows that he is now getting NO direct advice from the US military.
And he is the commander in chief. Doesn't look good, does it?
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Yes, you're like a flat-earther in that regard. No amount of evidence, no matter how irrefutable will ever convince you that Trump us the corrupt pathological liar and felon that he clearly is, just as flat-earthers will obstinately refuse to even honestly look at any evidence that casts any serious doubt about what they believe. You are the most pathologically extreme example of the "backfire effect" that I have ever encountered.ajax18 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2026 2:19 pmNo, this moves the needle for me 0%. I owe Trump immensely for winning an election that ideological conservatives who have closer viewpoints to me could not have won. He accomplished what we were told by other Republicans over the last 50 years was impossible by enforcing the southern border. You know how I feel about the scamdemic and yet I would contend that Marjorie Traitor Green needs to shut up and return to fighting the real enemy, which is the left. The only president you're going to agree with 100% of the time is yourself.Chap wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2026 10:56 amSo, nothing to say about Trump's launching a major, and it appears ever-expanding, war against Iran, with the possibility of it developing into a world-wide conflict with US troops on the ground, despite him having explicitly stated that starting wars was what he would not do? A "minor disagreement" at worst ...
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From the Pope, today at mass in St Peters:
Isaiah 1,15
"And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood."
Could he be referring to Hegseth's prayer in the Pentagon:
“Let every round find its mark against the enemies of righteousness and our great nation,” Hegseth said in the prayer service. “Give them wisdom in every decision, endurance for the trial ahead, unbreakable unity, and overwhelming violence of action against those who deserve no mercy.”
Why, I think he could.
Isaiah 1,15
"And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood."
Could he be referring to Hegseth's prayer in the Pentagon:
“Let every round find its mark against the enemies of righteousness and our great nation,” Hegseth said in the prayer service. “Give them wisdom in every decision, endurance for the trial ahead, unbreakable unity, and overwhelming violence of action against those who deserve no mercy.”
Why, I think he could.
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That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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Chap,Chap wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2026 6:24 pmFrom the Pope, today at mass in St Peters:
Isaiah 1,15
"And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood."
Could he be referring to Hegseth's prayer in the Pentagon:
“Let every round find its mark against the enemies of righteousness and our great nation,” Hegseth said in the prayer service. “Give them wisdom in every decision, endurance for the trial ahead, unbreakable unity, and overwhelming violence of action against those who deserve no mercy.”
Why, I think he could.
Excellent find! It appears the Pope is trying to gently remind the Pentagon that God isn't exactly a fan. The Vatican and Trump are currently reading two very different editions of the Bible.
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All HELL BREAKS LOOSE as Trump SURRENDERS to RUSSIA!!!
ETA: How can even MAGA Republicans fail to be thoroughly outraged by all this!

It is becoming glaringly obvious that the greatest beneficiary of Trump's illegal and unconstitutional war against Iran is most probably Russia. Russia is profiting hugely from increased prices of the oil and natural gas that they export. Plus, Russia is openly on Iran's side, by providing material benefits, weapons and intelligence to Iran's regime and helping them target and attack American forces in the region, not to mention also using those profits to help fund their criminal war in Ukraine. Despite all this, Trump is reducing or eliminating sanctions on Russia intended to punish them for invading Ukraine, and unbelievably also reducing sanctions on Iran! In addition to all this, the Trump administration is cozying up to Hungary's Victor Orban, another authoritarian despot who traitorously sides with Putin, despite heading a country supposedly a member of NATO! Trump apparently doesn't know or care how much this weakens our nation and damages our reputation and respect for us by our strongest allies and friends. We have become a laughingstock and/or a Pariah to many, if not most, of the other countries of the world, both friend and foe, especially our foes!MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on hell breaking loose as Trump and the MAGA Republicans invite sanctioned Russian officials to get VIP treatment in Washington DC at the same Russia is helping Iran target the United States.
ETA: How can even MAGA Republicans fail to be thoroughly outraged by all this!
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