Split: Israel's judgement

[Quantum1982]

Israel is in deep trouble. If you look at Tel Aviv, they have lgbtq parades there, and this provoking God to anger. The government has to implement a form of conversion therapy, otherwise Tel Aviv is going to get bombed.

Also, Jewish orginizations like Hollywood and Walt Disney openly mock Jesus, so these orginizations need to be shut down.

[Chap]

Yes, he really can't spell 'organizations'.

Figures.

[Gunnar]

Israel is in deep trouble. If you look at Tel Aviv, they have lgbtq parades there, and this provoking God to anger. The government has to implement a form of conversion therapy, otherwise Tel Aviv is going to get bombed.

Also, Jewish orginizations like Hollywood and Walt Disney openly mock Jesus, so these orginizations need to be shut down.

The main reason Israel is now (or should be) in deep trouble is that it is currently in the control of an authoritarian, hard-right, MAGA-like government led by a bigoted, vengeful, and genocidal religious fanatic who would be in danger of being quickly arrested and sent to The Hague to be justly tried and convicted for war crimes and genocide if he ever dared set foot outside of Israel into most any other country (particularly in Europe) that is a signatory to the International Geneva Convention.

[Quantum1982]

Hi Gunnar.

What do you believe should be the solution to the Israeli-Palestinian problem?

[I Have Questions]

Hi Gunnar.

What do you believe should be the solution to the Israeli-Palestinian problem?

Can you articulate what you think the “problem” actually is?

[Quantum1982]

To Gunnar:

I believe the problem is that Palestinians refuse to accept that Jews were in the land of Israel since 4000 BC, effectively meaning they have been there for 6000 years. Stewardship of the land has been given to them by divine decree. They are the descendents of Abraham's son Isaac, with whom the covenant was made. The covenant is everlasting and eternal.

Islam only came into being 600 AD, so to claim that you have access to Jerusalem because of the Al Aqsa mosque is farcical.

Does this make sense?

[I Have Questions]

To Gunnar:

I believe the problem is that Palestinians refuse to accept that Jews were in the land of Israel since 4000 BC, effectively meaning they have been there for 6000 years. Stewardship of the land has been given to them by divine decree. They are the descendents of Abraham's son Isaac, with whom the covenant was made. The covenant is everlasting and eternal.

Islam only came into being 600 AD, so to claim that you have access to Jerusalem because of the Al Aqsa mosque is farcical.

Does this make sense?

No. It doesn’t make sense. It looks a lot like circular reasoning. You’d have thought, given events in Europe during the 1930’s and 40’s, modern Jews in Israel would see the forcible removal of people from a region on the basis that they are a different race as something abhorrent.

For reference, the formal acknowledgement of both parties, the so-called Two State Solution, seems to be the most reasonable. You’ll disagree because you hold an entrenched and fundamentally biased position. You don’t want an equitable solution to the conflict, you want to eradicate the Palestinians, and gay people, right?

[Quantum1982]

These Palestinians have got so many Arab countries that they can go to. Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, UAE, Iran. Why haven't they gone there?

I am against lgbtq lifestyle because God's Word condemns it.

[I Have Questions]

These Palestinians have got so many Arab countries that they can go to. Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, UAE, Iran. Why haven't they gone there?

Jews are welcome in many places around the world. Why haven’t they gone there?

I am against lgbtq lifestyle because God's Word condemns it.

Who is forcing you to live a lgbtq lifestyle?

When God said “Love they neighbour as thyself” what do you think He meant?

[Chap]

To Gunnar :

I believe the problem is that [various unprovable and faith-based assertions follow]

"The problem" for the rest of us is that you believe, and think your beliefs should count as facts in political decision making.

Your assertions are simply based on your religious belief. The US Constitution gives you the right to continue that belief, but you may have noticed that a large proportion of your fellow human beings don't share it.