Looks like someone popped both bungs out at the same time!Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2026 11:44 pmThe Utah numbers are tanking faster than a Jaredite submarine with a leak:
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2025 Lowest number of self identifying USA LDS adults for 20 years
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Did this map come from u/Quantanamo ? If not, what is it's source?malkie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2026 11:49 pmLooks like someone popped both bungs out at the same time!Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2026 11:44 pmThe Utah numbers are tanking faster than a Jaredite submarine with a leak:
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malkie, you seem to think highly of the map. Do you have an answer to my question?
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MG seems to think that the fact I commented on Everybody Wang Chung's comment indicates that I think highly of the map, and that therefore I should have an answer to his question. If so, his premise is not accurate.
I think perhaps I'll follow his lead on answering questions that then go unrequited.
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OK then.malkie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2026 2:22 amMG seems to think that the fact I commented on Everybody Wang Chung's comment indicates that I think highly of the map, and that therefore I should have an answer to his question. If so, his premise is not accurate.
I think perhaps I'll follow his lead on answering questions that then go unrequited.
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malkie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2026 2:22 amMG seems to think that the fact I commented on Everybody Wang Chung's comment indicates that I think highly of the map, and that therefore I should have an answer to his question. If so, his premise is not accurate.
I think perhaps I'll follow his lead on answering questions that then go unrequited.
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I thought this part of the article was interesting.
So the Church is hiding itself behind a mask of generic Christianity. It is wilfully removing the brand so as to attract more interest. A sort of Trojan Horse tactic. That really is a dishonest way of going about the business of preaching the gospel.The second contextual item I’d point to is that the LDS Church has smoothed the way for its impressive missionary force by investing heavily in social media advertising around the world. And I do mean heavily — these ads often show good-looking young missionaries from the church without actually spelling out which church is sponsoring the ads. They have the appearance of being created by grassroots, local groups of Christians rather than by the highly centralized LDS missionary department.
For example, check out the Instagram page for Followers of Christ — Pacific Northwest. It depicts a mostly generic, upbeat Christian message. Visitors can consider questions about their lives — like, “Do you struggle with mental illness?” — and find comfort in healing memes. Sometimes these memes are optimistic, feel-good messages about self-esteem and faith in God. Occasionally they have a quote from a church leader, who is identified by first and last name but not by the name of the church.
Even the account’s “About us” section neglects to identify the actual name of the church. In six Instagram stories, it says the account was created by “people just like you” — Jesus-followers who love Washington and Idaho, who can help you by sharing a message of peace and hope.
It’s a genius move, marketing-wise, to erase the Mormon/LDS brand name in favor of a cheerful, non-denominational Christian calling card. Non-denominational Christianity has been one of the few growth areas of religion in the United States and abroad.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Yeah deception is very effective marketing. Bait and switch. Not exactly a new playbook either, the template’s already in the Book of Mormon. “We have the truth” rings hollow when accompanied by this sort of strategem.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Fri Apr 10, 2026 7:27 amSo the Church is hiding itself behind a mask of generic Christianity. It is wilfully removing the brand so as to attract more interest. A sort of Trojan Horse tactic. That really is a dishonest way of going about the business of preaching the gospel.
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It looks like the new stakes are just a reorganization in areas where massive closures have happened. In other words, mop up duty.Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2026 11:44 pmThe Utah numbers are tanking faster than a Jaredite submarine with a leak:
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Hiring a part-time news entertainment anchor as SecDef, what could go wrong?