Split: Israel's judgement

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Re: Split: Israel's judgement

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Gunnar wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2026 8:51 am
INothing is more deservedly suspect than the claim, "God told me so!"
To that claim, the only reasonable response is "Uh-huh. Well, he didn't tell me. So till he does ...".

I do think it is reasonable to assume that the Abrahamic deity has the power, if he wishes, to address the entire human race, each in their own language, if he has an important message that he wishes to have conveyed to the whole human race. The idea that he would just pick one person to confide in, and then hope the message would get through to everybody, suggests a very un-omnipotent and unintelligent deity indeed.
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Quantum1982 wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2026 10:18 am
Ok so what do you believe is the solution to the Arab Israeli conflict?
What do you believe is the solution to the lgbtq issue that you raised in your OP?
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Chap wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2026 4:19 pm
Gunnar wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2026 8:51 am
INothing is more deservedly suspect than the claim, "God told me so!"
To that claim, the only reasonable response is "Uh-huh. Well, he didn't tell me. So till he does ...".

I do think it is reasonable to assume that the Abrahamic deity has the power, if he wishes, to address the entire human race, each in their own language, if he has an important message that he wishes to have conveyed to the whole human race. The idea that he would just pick one person to confide in, and then hope the message would get through to everybody, suggests a very un-omnipotent and unintelligent deity indeed.
That sounds very reasonable to me!
No precept or claim is more suspect or more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
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One possible solution for the Arab Israeli conflict is :

1. Get the IDF to hand out gospel tracts in Arabic to Palestinians.
2. Implement conversion therapy in the hospitals.
3. Shut down Hollywood and Walt Disney.
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Quantum1982 wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2026 9:38 pm
One possible solution for the Arab Israeli conflict is :

1. Get the IDF to hand out gospel tracts in Arabic to Palestinians.
2. Implement conversion therapy in the hospitals.
3. Shut down Hollywood and Walt Disney.
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Quantum1982 wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2026 9:38 pm
One possible solution for the Arab Israeli conflict is :

1. Get the IDF to hand out gospel tracts in Arabic to Palestinians.
Before you posted this idea you would have done well to check how many Christians there are in those areas as well as how many Christian missionaries there are.

There are Christians and Christian missionaries in Israel as well.
2. Implement conversion therapy in the hospitals.
Conversion therapy for what? If you mean conversion from same sex attraction it's proven not to "work".
3. Shut down Hollywood and Walt Disney.
Who has the power to shut down Hollywood and Disney?

Quantum I see you posting a wish list, not offering realistic solutions. I could be wrong.

But I'm not wrong.
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Quantum1982,

Here's a quick thing for you to read. I haven't read it myself. It may/may not mention Cyrus the Great, the Persian king who released the Jews and aided in building their Temple.

So if you want to look back to the Old Testament, seems like Israel forgot about that.

When you are passing judgment on the Middle East, do you also consider that God will pass judgment on Israel for what is currently happening there?

I don't say it's going to happen tomorrow but Quantum1982, you need to check The Revelation of John.

I don't know if you are affiliated with Christianity or Mormonism, or what. My replies on this thread would be exactly the same as if you were atheist and you are ignoring them. Probably because you don't want to think past your "wish list".
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Hollywood and Disney are to blame (or at least, involved) in the Arab Israeli conflict?

Wow. It takes some kind of brain damage to put those things together. Religion makes people dumb. It requires unrivaled stupidity.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Sun Apr 12, 2026 1:04 am
Quantum1982 wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2026 9:38 pm
2. Implement conversion therapy in the hospitals.
Conversion therapy for what? If you mean conversion from same sex attraction it's proven not to "work".
Not only has that proven not to work, but it has also almost invariably proven to make things worse.
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Quantum1982 wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2026 9:38 pm
One possible solution for the Arab Israeli conflict is :

1. Get the IDF to hand out gospel tracts in Arabic to Palestinians.
2. Implement conversion therapy in the hospitals.
3. Shut down Hollywood and Walt Disney.
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