Split: Israel's judgement

[huckelberry]

To Jersey Girl :

The twin towers was the Centre of commerce in that area. People who make money without sharing it with the poor are under God's judgement.

"For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil." P
"You can't serve both God and money".

There were also lgbtq parades close by that area.
The Bible says that "sodomites shall not enter the kingdom of heaven".

Quantum, perhaps you have thought about the fact that all kinds of people were killed in the towers. Some were good people some Christians some risking their life for others. There were folks who could have found Jesus but were burnt up in the fires. At the same time their were proud homosexuals who close in the area were unharmed.

You might have a theory about why so many different kinds of people suffered. Still I warn you, disaster will not be so comfortably smug when it is people you love who are harmed disabled or killed. When the fire burns you you might not be so smug.

[I Have Questions]

To Jersey Girl :

The twin towers was the Centre of commerce in that area. People who make money without sharing it with the poor are under God's judgement.

"For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil." P
"You can't serve both God and money".

There were also lgbtq parades close by that area.
The Bible says that "sodomites shall not enter the kingdom of heaven".

Quantum, perhaps you have thought about the fact that all kinds of people were killed in the towers. Some were good people some Christians some risking their life for others. There were folks who could have found Jesus but were burnt up in the fires. At the same time their were proud homosexuals who close in the area were unharmed.

You might have a theory about why so many different kinds of people suffered. Still I warn you, disaster will not be so comfortably smug when it is people you love who are harmed disabled or killed. When the fire burns you you might not be so smug.

huckelberry, as you know I don’t really mince my words. You would do well to see Quantum1982 as the religious equivalent of a smack head. There’s no talking sense to them, and you won’t get them talking sense back to you. They just spout randomness. Quantum1982 is just that person weaving around the neighbourhood shouting random stuff at everybody and nobody, whilst they wait for their next hit. Quantum1972 cannot be reasoned with, cannot be involved in a discussion, cannot see others perspectives. He’s lost in his religious cloud of addiction. A lost cause if ever there was one. Good luck trying.

[Jersey Girl]

Quantum, perhaps you have thought about the fact that all kinds of people were killed in the towers. Some were good people some Christians some risking their life for others. There were folks who could have found Jesus but were burnt up in the fires. At the same time their were proud homosexuals who close in the area were unharmed.

You might have a theory about why so many different kinds of people suffered. Still I warn you, disaster will not be so comfortably smug when it is people you love who are harmed disabled or killed. When the fire burns you you might not be so smug.

huckelberry, as you know I don’t really mince my words. You would do well to see Quantum1982 as the religious equivalent of a smack head. There’s no talking sense to them, and you won’t get them talking sense back to you. They just spout randomness. Quantum1982 is just that person weaving around the neighbourhood shouting random stuff at everybody and nobody, whilst they wait for their next hit. Quantum1972 cannot be reasoned with, cannot be involved in a discussion, cannot see others perspectives. He’s lost in his religious cloud of addiction. A lost cause if ever there was one. Good luck trying.

You don't mince words? Do you mince your thought processes? Weren't you the genius who agreed with Chap that I and Quantum should take our friendly interaction to private messages? Do you know how this board works? What cloud are you lost in, eh?

[I Have Questions]

huckelberry, as you know I don’t really mince my words. You would do well to see Quantum1982 as the religious equivalent of a smack head. There’s no talking sense to them, and you won’t get them talking sense back to you. They just spout randomness. Quantum1982 is just that person weaving around the neighbourhood shouting random stuff at everybody and nobody, whilst they wait for their next hit. Quantum1972 cannot be reasoned with, cannot be involved in a discussion, cannot see others perspectives. He’s lost in his religious cloud of addiction. A lost cause if ever there was one. Good luck trying.

You don't mince words? Do you mince your thought processes? Weren't you the genius who agreed with Chap that I and Quantum should take our friendly interaction to private messages? Do you know how this board works? What cloud are you lost in, eh?

You're going to have to show me where I did that.

[Jersey Girl]

To Jersey Girl :

The twin towers was the Centre of commerce in that area. People who make money without sharing it with the poor are under God's judgement.

They still do.

It's the financial district you're thinking about. Fair enough. However, the entire island of Manhattan (the US and I say, the world itself--not Jersey of course!) is diseased by corruption and greed.

"For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil."
"You can't serve both God and money".

Absolutely agree! We are seeing it here played out in the US government every single day of our lives right now. You can't miss it!

There were also lgbtq parades close by that area.

They still hold Pride parades there, Quantum. They probably did so before and after 9/11.

The Bible says that "sodomites shall not enter the kingdom of heaven".

Jesus told us to love God and our neighbors as ourselves. I am not sure about your quote there, if you've got a scripture ref, please share it. I prefer King James Version but use what you like. That sounds Old Testament to me.

Quantum do you know how to use the quote features here? I mean where you quote a person's words for reply? If not, I can help you with that. Also, when you make a statement such as:

The Bible says that "sodomites shall not enter the kingdom of heaven".

Someone is going to ask you for a reference for that claim on that like I just did.

[Jersey Girl]

You don't mince words? Do you mince your thought processes? Weren't you the genius who agreed with Chap that I and Quantum should take our friendly interaction to private messages? Do you know how this board works? What cloud are you lost in, eh?

You're going to have to show me where I did that.

I'm not going to "have to" do anything. Go find your own post.

[Jersey Girl]

Talk to me about this.

Asks the person who won't talk to me about blasphemy after a couple requests.

Whiner.

Hang on you're getting it. Please stand by.

[Jersey Girl]

Quantum have you seen The Chosen series? Your post made me think of this scene. It's a youtube short, not long. About a minute.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JUZLt3duzsk

So you've been back to this thread, and I assume you've read my response to your post, but you are ignoring my question.

I have to say, I'm surprised. I'm not used to you backing away from difficult topics.

Weird.

This is what your message would have looked like if a thoughtful human being had composed it.

Weird. It's not like her. Wonder if something's going on with her?

And there is.

But let's not fall into the trap of treating actual humans like they're actually human around here, okay?

Back to my long overdue reply to you...

Your claim: Blasphemy only exists in the mind of believers.

To which I hit and ran with "False". *

And here is why I said that. Keep in mind that this isn't my first rodeo re: blasphemy. When we look at definitions of Blasphemy, included on the list we often see desecration or destruction of sacred things/objects.

So if a non-believer descecrates a sacred object (of a religious group of course) such as a statue of Jesus (like the IDF soldier) or bombs the crap out of a Mosque (Like the IDF) they are commiting blasphemy in the eyes of the religious community it corresponds to and in fact, they're offense would have been covered under Blasphemy Law (some still on the books in the US and other countries,I believe Arabic mainly). Blasphemy Law has now morphed in it's categorization as a hate crime though some offenses fall under the heading of protected free speech.

So I don't think it matters whether you call it blasphemy or (the piece I'm looking at here) a hate crime. It's covered under the same umbrella just as is racisim (mass shooting in a Black church?) or any other type of hate crime which perpetrates offense and/or persecution of various societal and cultural groups.

You may disagree with that reasoning but recall, you asked for mine. I know you probably think that the world would be better off if we could wipe god belief off the planet. That will never happen. Humans (perhaps not all) are hardwired toward god belief. You would say that's science. I would say God made us that way.

*Why'd you hit and run on me, Jersey Girl? Because as I said we're not okay over here and somewhere in the middle of utter hell raining down on us, I got an idea for a topic re: non-believers and the antichrist /666 so I posted an OP about it. When I was able to return to the thread I myself started I saw that you and Cam took the liberty of posting off topic in a two-man sling-crap-at-believers duet. If I'm not mistaken, canpakes joined in as well and made it a trio. In my mind, I and my idea, deserved better until I was able to get back to it which when I did I was met with a sense of disgust for you guys having crapped on it so I gave up on my own topic. You can't say that I've not made an overall effort to treat folks well around here regardless of religious affiliation. When I created that OP I did so with respect. So when I saw your claim re: blasphemy I decided to toss a passive/aggressive hit and run at you because it seems as though all I see from you lately is name calling and slinging crap at believers as a group (just like you did on my thread) when you know good and well your bitch is with Christian nationalists and very likely Israel because you see them and Trump as feeding off of each other which they are. So I tossed a little hit and run your way for the hell of it. But what you can't toss my way is never making an attempt to support my position instead of resorting to wholesale crap slinging around here. How do you know that? I just replied to your request for a response. But why'd you reply to Quantum before me, Jersey Girl? Because I don't know him well enough to care what he does here yet. I waited until I could sit down to compose a reply because I do care about what you do and how I communicate with you. I have to admit though, it was kind of satisfying when I could click in here for a bit whenever I saw you wanting a reply. Oh and by the way, any part of the above that you think is sarcasm, is sarcasm.

[Some Schmo]

OK, thanks, Jersey Girl.

I hope all is well with you.

[I Have Questions]

You're going to have to show me where I did that.

I'm not going to "have to" do anything. Go find your own post.

You know, and I know that you’ve messed up and cannot show me where I did what you claimed I did. Because it wasn’t me. Now be a grown up, admit your error and apologise for the false accusation…because that’s what a “thoughtful human being” would do.