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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue May 05, 2026 6:50 pm
He’s easily the most corrupt President in US history. Hey, MAGAs, are you ok with this level of corruption?
The racists sure are. They'll swallow anything in exchange for institutionalized hatred.
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Trump bypassed federal bidding laws to hand a Lincoln Memorial project to his country club contractor friend.

Hey, MAGAs! Are you ok with treating our national monuments like private real estate properties in order to dole out favors like a mob boss?
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Trumponomics is achieving record results now. Unfortunately, they’re not the kind of records that anyone actually wanted to achieve.

From the Wall Street Journal:
The U.S. national debt now exceeds 100% of gross domestic product, crossing a once-unthinkable threshold, on the way toward breaking the record set in the wake of World War II.

As of March 31, the country’s publicly held debt was $31.265 trillion, while GDP over the preceding year was $31.216 trillion, according to data released Thursday. That puts the ratio at 100.2%, compared with 99.5% when the last fiscal year ended Sept. 30.
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‘The Most Transparent Administration in History’ is, once again, having some trouble living up to that description after reports surfaced that the Administration appears to be severely and purposely underreporting the amount and value of American assets that gave been destroyed by Iranian forces since the war with Iran started*.

Now, Heather Cox Richardson reports on a new discovery related to this issue:
While the damage from the Iranian strikes, which have killed and wounded servicemembers, is itself important, so is the underlying story: the U.S. government is hiding the true cost of the war in Iran from the American people. The journalists note that it is “unusually difficult” to get satellite imagery from the Middle East right now because less than two weeks into the war, the U.S. government asked two of the largest commercial providers of satellite imagery, Vantor and Planet, “to limit, delay or indefinitely withhold the publication of imagery of the region while the war is ongoing.”

The companies complied, forcing the journalists to turn to high-resolution satellite imagery published by Iran’s state-affiliated media, cross-checking it with lower-resolution imagery from the satellite system the European Union uses.

Global affairs journalist David Rothkopf wrote today in The Daily Beast: “Not since Vietnam have we seen a more systematic effort by an administration to lie about the nature, costs, consequences, and results of a war than we have seen from the White House on Iran.”
*per link: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/rep ... 29453.html
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Trump’s wealth since taking office:

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Hey, MAGAs, are you still worried about Presidents using the office for personal gain? What about crony corruption?
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Anyone who still thinks that Trump had any motive for becoming President other than maximizing his wealth and power is an ignorant fool! I will never cease to be both amazed and bitterly disappointed by how many Americans there are who still can't see that or don't care!
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Gunnar wrote:
Thu May 07, 2026 11:31 pm
Anyone who still thinks that Trump had any motive for becoming President other than maximizing his wealth and power is an ignorant fool! I will never cease to be both amazed and bitterly disappointed by how many Americans there are who still can't see that or don't care!
Good luck with the next election, assuming there is one…
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President Trump claims "Gas prices are way down. Have you looked?"

Source: https://x.com/Acyn/status/2052550782965 ... R2zsQ&s=19

Hey, MAGAs! Do you understand yet they never had your interests in mind?
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Fri May 08, 2026 5:45 pm
Hey, MAGAs! Do you understand yet they never had your interests in mind?
No, they don't.

They're damned idiots.
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In trying to explain why people support Trump, it is indeed hard to believe that stupidity isn't a big factor. Calling it the only factor, however, is contradictory. If Trump's opponents are so much smarter than his supporters, then how did Trump win?

My view of the world is a narrow one; insights into American populist politics from a German ivory tower are probably unreliable. For what it's worth, though, the vibes I get from much of the American left are those of a professor failing to explain something clearly. The plain fact is that the lecturer doesn't actually understand the material, either. They just know what they're supposed to say, not why we should think it is true—maybe not even what it really means. They're not so much smarter than the students after all.

Facing that is embarrassing to the professor, maybe even depressing, and certainly annoying because it implies that they have some hard work to do, to figure out something difficult. It's much easier to blame the students for being stupid, unmotivated, inattentive, and poorly prepared. Blaming the audience is a lot easier than teaching them.

The American left seems to me to be much more correct in its views than the American right, but the left also seems to have spent far too much time scolding its opponents and patting itself on the back, and far too little time persuading and teaching. In that way the two sides seem quite similar.
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