The Mosiah/Benjamin Error, What’s the King’s Name?

[LittleNipper]

The truth of Noah's Flood

Start with these...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6apFLhUjYs&t=218s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdkY3yxXmqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0J5WMmykEs


Why are there no fossil/bond mixing in the geological strata? No humans, or even rabbits, with dinosaurs.The strata cleanly demonstrate the development of life over eons of time. Moreover the DNA evidence completely falsifies a worldwide radiation of species from pairs of animals from about 5000 back to the present starting at some point, like Mt Ararat. I didn't happen.

Amusingly to me, if God wanted to kill all the land animals except a few, why didn't he just, well, do that without requiring a large very implausibe boat? Did he forget how to do miracles? At very least he could engineered a virus do the job. But, of course, the writer of Genesis didn't know anything about virii, genes and DNA.

There are very reasonable and logical reasons that dinosaur, humans & mammals have not been found together. Please consider the following:https://www.icr.org/content/why-don't-we ... an-fossils
https://genesisapologetics.com/faq/huma ... dinosaurs/
https://assets.answersingenesis.ca/doc/ ... -2-267.pdf
https://www.icr.org/invertebrates

The FLOOD was a type of GOD's Judgment and the selective salvation of Noah's family and animals represents GOD's grace & mercy. I have also heard that the FLOOD is a kind of representation of the Catching away & Tribulation.

[Shulem]

The FLOOD was a type of GOD's Judgment and the selective salvation of Noah's family and animals represents GOD's grace & mercy. I have also heard that the FLOOD is a kind of representation of the Catching away & Tribulation.

I am not afraid of Bible God. He does not scare me!

Christians cannot change history and neither can they overturn truths revealed by science and Egyptology. Egypt was an established nation long BEFORE the biblical dating of 2400 BC. Scientific blasphemy committed by religious fanatics changes nothing!

Truth prevails!

[bill4long]

There is also radiocarbon dating and other methods scientists use to determine the age of matter. The writers of Genesis came long *after* Egypt was first established as a nation state, a people living along the Nile having prospered for centuries and later built the pyramids which became the envy of the world.

Indeed. And a lot more. All the arrows point to an old earth, and that a global flood is fiction. Egypt had a continuous history that sails right through the "global flood" period with no breaks. The Egyptians of the era (and beyond) were fanatical about record-keeping of certain kinds of information. If a global flood occurred, Egypt somehow survived it.

It is patently obvious that the foundation for the global flood myth came from Mesopotamian myth. The details are a bit different. But they are so similar, that whole phrases are lifted. In Genesis the reason for the destruction was the wickedness of humans, largely due to the "sons of God" having sex with human women and producing hybrids. Well, by golly, couldn't God foresee the eventual outcome of his experiment? God regretted making humans so much that it made him sick to his stomach. The humans were all continous sinners from birth. "Kill them all! Even the land animals!" But Noah and his little clan were good enough to keep the experiment going. In the Mesopetamian myth, the gods were simply tired of the racket that the noisy humans were making. The Eden story and tower of Babel are likewise lifted from Mesopotamian myths and reworked somewhat but the relationship if obvious.

Moreover, the Genesis flood myth is an interweaving of two different Hebrew flood myth sources that are somewhat contrardictory. This is noticable from English translations, but it is patently obvious when looking at the Hebrew. The differences between the J and P sources are right there to behold.

Young-earth apologists are just as much in denial as Mormon apologists with regards to what they'll accept and ignore in support of a fictional myth. There may be good reasons to be a Jew, or a Christian, or a Mormon, but literal historicy of Genesis is not one of them. Catholics and Orthrodox have no problem viewing Genesis as esssentially allegory. Augustine and other church fathers established that early on.

[Shulem]

...viewing Genesis as esssentially allegory.

Yes, absolutely. Biblical chronology, timelines, and life spans in the hundreds of years were all allegories to make people think.

Every respectable university and museum on the planet using scientific data proves the biblical account is nothing more than myth. Sadly, cultists today are not able to let go and come to terms.

[LittleNipper]

The FLOOD was a type of GOD's Judgment and the selective salvation of Noah's family and animals represents GOD's grace & mercy. I have also heard that the FLOOD is a kind of representation of the Catching away & Tribulation.

I am not afraid of Bible God. He does not scare me!

Christians cannot change history and neither can they overturn truths revealed by science and Egyptology. Egypt was an established nation long BEFORE the biblical dating of 2400 BC. Scientific blasphemy committed by religious fanatics changes nothing!

Truth prevails!

GOD is LOVE and you shouldn't be scared of HIM, but you should respect HIM. Christians don't change history; however, Christians can in fact interpret data in light of what GOD reveals to us. You may deny GOD exists and that what the Bible reveals is relevant ----- but such will not provide one with the truth nor a happy ending. You will reap exactly what you sow.

[LittleNipper]

There is also radiocarbon dating and other methods scientists use to determine the age of matter. The writers of Genesis came long *after* Egypt was first established as a nation state, a people living along the Nile having prospered for centuries and later built the pyramids which became the envy of the world.

Indeed. And a lot more. All the arrows point to an old earth, and that a global flood is fiction. Egypt had a continuous history that sails right through the "global flood" period with no breaks. The Egyptians of the era (and beyond) were fanatical about record-keeping of certain kinds of information. If a global flood occurred, Egypt somehow survived it.

It is patently obvious that the foundation for the global flood myth came from Mesopotamian myth. The details are a bit different. But they are so similar, that whole phrases are lifted. In Genesis the reason for the destruction was the wickedness of humans, largely due to the "sons of God" having sex with human women and producing hybrids. Well, by golly, couldn't God foresee the eventual outcome of his experiment? God regretted making humans so much that it made him sick to his stomach. The humans were all continous sinners from birth. "Kill them all! Even the land animals!" But Noah and his little clan were good enough to keep the experiment going. In the Mesopetamian myth, the gods were simply tired of the racket that the noisy humans were making. The Eden story and tower of Babel are likewise lifted from Mesopotamian myths and reworked somewhat but the relationship if obvious.

Moreover, the Genesis flood myth is an interweaving of two different Hebrew flood myth sources that are somewhat contrardictory. This is noticable from English translations, but it is patently obvious when looking at the Hebrew. The differences between the J and P sources are right there to behold.

Young-earth apologists are just as much in denial as Mormon apologists with regards to what they'll accept and ignore in support of a fictional myth. There may be good reasons to be a Jew, or a Christian, or a Mormon, but literal historicy of Genesis is not one of them. Catholics and Orthrodox have no problem viewing Genesis as esssentially allegory. Augustine and other church fathers established that early on.

You believe that that FLOOD is a myth created by the Mesopotamians. That is a result of what you were taught to believe. I realize that the FLOOD was a real event that was passed down orally, and at some point a corrupted version of the FLOOD story was written down by a pagan culture. It was GOD who revealed the factual version to Moses ----- who was for a time an Egyptian prince. But you don't believe that either I suppose...

[Shulem]

GOD is LOVE and you shouldn't be scared of HIM, but you should respect HIM.

• I am not scared of Bible God and neither do I fear him -- nor do I have any respect for him, whatsoever.

• I am not scared of Mormon God and neither do I fear him -- nor do I have any respect for him, whatsoever.

Christians don't change history; however, Christians can in fact interpret data in light of what GOD reveals to us.

Ancient Egypt was founded and existed long before what they Bible says. The Bible is wrong, period. How Christians today interpret certain data means nothing to me.

You may deny GOD exists and that what the Bible reveals is relevant ----- but such will not provide one with the truth nor a happy ending. You will reap exactly what you sow.

Please pay attention, LittleNipper; I have done no such thing and have never denied the existence of God. My post directed at you in another thread bears testimony to that:

Let me make myself entirely clear by saying I do not believe in the God of the Bible or the divinity of Christ as a Savior and nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet and has any right to tell me what to do.

I hope that helps.

But, I do believe in God. The real God!

And yes, I reap what I sow.