Question for Don Bradley

[Shulem]

As demonstrated earlier, skin color was of upmost importance to the Mormons and the whiter the skin the better!

Remember, according to Mormon principles:

White Skin = Pure Skin

Nonetheless, white Mormons learned to appreciate and love people regardless of the color of their skin while welcoming them into God's colorful flock of sheep. Mormons were captivated about skin color!

To you who wonder, I have just greeted and welcomed our people from Latin America. My Spanish may not have been such as they could understand, but you are in no position to challenge my interpretation of it.

I love these, my brothers and sisters. To me they are white and delightsome. And of course I love you, too.

Pursuant to assignment from the First Presidency of the Church, I have for the past two years been supervising the Latin American missions. It may not, therefore, be wholly inappropriate for me to say something about the Lamanites, many of whom live in these missions.

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"And then shall they rejoice; for they shall know that it is a blessing unto them from the hand of God; and their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a white and delightsome people." (2 Nephi 30:4-6.)

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It is true that they are poor; they are downtrodden; they are in large part uneducated. In these and many other respects they still suffer under the curse brought upon them by their apostasy from the gospel once so richly enjoyed and strictly obeyed by their fathers.

AND, one of those other respects has to do with dark skin which was a curse put upon them by God.

U gotta love it.

[Rivendale]

As demonstrated earlier, skin color was of upmost importance to the Mormons and the whiter the skin the better!

Remember, according to Mormon principles:

White Skin = Pure Skin

Nonetheless, white Mormons learned to appreciate and love people regardless of the color of their skin while welcoming them into God's colorful flock of sheep. Mormons were captivated about skin color!

To you who wonder, I have just greeted and welcomed our people from Latin America. My Spanish may not have been such as they could understand, but you are in no position to challenge my interpretation of it.

I love these, my brothers and sisters. To me they are white and delightsome. And of course I love you, too.

Pursuant to assignment from the First Presidency of the Church, I have for the past two years been supervising the Latin American missions. It may not, therefore, be wholly inappropriate for me to say something about the Lamanites, many of whom live in these missions.

<snip>

"And then shall they rejoice; for they shall know that it is a blessing unto them from the hand of God; and their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a white and delightsome people." (2 Nephi 30:4-6.)

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It is true that they are poor; they are downtrodden; they are in large part uneducated. In these and many other respects they still suffer under the curse brought upon them by their apostasy from the gospel once so richly enjoyed and strictly obeyed by their fathers.

AND, one of those other respects has to do with dark skin which was a curse put upon them by God.

U gotta love it.

Utah LDS hospitals use to segregate blood far into the 20th century. Also some wards segregated people by race. Mormon god seems to be an incrementally bound god which seems strange because he had no problem putting the brakes on coffee.

[Shulem]

Utah LDS hospitals use to segregate blood far into the 20th century.

Yes, the Mormons were just like any other racist people of their times -- just as bad. LDS hospitals under the management of the Church maintained blood segregation -- approved by the priesthood brethren. Many a white Mormon would not dare have colored blood pumped into their veins lest they partake of the Curse of Cain™ .

Mormons are so f-ing hypocritical -- then and now.

[Shulem]

The Mormon Church was finally enlightened by dropping the Curse of Cain™ in 1978 and let blacks into the Priesthood Club®. A couple of years prior to that, Archie Bunker had an operation by which he received a blood transfusion from a black doctor who donated her blood for his survival. In the end, Archie took it all in stride and accepted the outcome with a somewhat positive outlook.

Here is an outrageous but hilarious video clip of All In The Family!

[Shulem]

Those of us who are familiar with LDS church history will easily recognize how the Church® today has embraced dirty apologetics, endorsed by the likes of apologists such as Don Bradley and others, as it shifts from its past position and throws all the dead leaders under the bus while reinventing modern Mormonism. Modern Mormonism™ is in complete apostasy! The time has arrived!

Modern Mormons lie, twist, and distort anything and everything in order to avoid embarrassment for its wretched past teachings. The Church is rebuilding/rebranding its foundation upon apologetic lying! Here are examples of modern Mormons caught in the act of a lying coverup with regard to skin color:

What do we know about the children of Canaan and their curse?

Little is known about the people of Canaan who lived before the Flood. Despite the similarity in name, there is no scriptural evidence to suggest that these people are related to Cain. Nor is there evidence that they are connected to the righteous people of the “land of Cainan,” named after Enoch’s great-grandfather. They are also distinct from Noah’s grandson Canaan and from the Canaanites mentioned frequently in the Old Testament, who came later.

Enoch prophesied that the children of Canaan would be cursed with barren and unfruitful land, seemingly because they destroyed the people of Shum. The record then states that “blackness came upon the children of Canaan” and they were “despised among all people.” What “blackness” means in this verse is unclear. Some have assumed that “blackness” is referring to dark skin color, but there is nothing in the text to justify this interpretation.

What does it mean that “the seed of Cain were black?”

Similar to the description of “blackness” that came upon the people of Canaan in Moses 7:8, the meaning of the word “black” in verse 22 is unclear. A description of Cain’s posterity found earlier in the book of Moses mentions that God did not minister unto them because “their works were in the dark” and “they kept not the commandments of God.”

After Cain entered into an unholy covenant with Satan and slew his brother Abel, the Lord pronounced a curse upon Cain. Cain’s curse was that the ground would not grow crops for him, he would wander as a fugitive, and he would be separated from the presence of God. The Lord also placed an unspecified mark upon Cain to prevent others from seeking revenge upon him.

There is no indication in the scriptures that Cain’s mark was passed on to his posterity. We should avoid speculating about the nature or appearance of the mark placed on Cain or that the curse applied to anyone other than him.

And there you have it. The Church has endorsed dirty apologists such as Don Bradley and others of his lying ilk. I have no respect, whatever, for Don Bradley! He's just as bad as the rest. Rotten to the Mormon core!

[Shulem]

Wikipedia is taking the hit:

Starting in 1831, Smith said he translated parts of the Old Testament, and those parts have been interpreted to mean that Black people were the descendants of Cain and Ham. In his translation Smith wrote "Canaan shall be his servant and a veil of darkness shall cover him that he shall be known among all men." He also wrote "there was a blackness come upon all the children of Canaan", and "the seed of Cain were black, and had not place among them." However, the term "black" at that time did not refer solely to skin color; the adjective was also defined by Noah Webster as "sullen; having a cloudy look or countenance [...] atrociously wicked; horrible [...] dismal; mournful; calamitous," which descriptions go hand-in-hand with the consequences of Cain having murdered Abel. The Pearl of Great Price, another LDS book of scripture, describes a blackness settling upon the children of Canaan; many critics take this as a reference to descendants of Cain, but the Church's doctrine does not make any claims about the Canaanites being Cain's descendants. Church president Brigham Young stated, "What is the mark? You will see it on the countenance of every African you ever did see....", and "the Lord put a mark upon [Cain], which is the flat nose and black skin".

[Shulem]

• The record then states that “blackness came upon the children of Canaan” and they were “despised among all people.” What “blackness” means in this verse is unclear. Some have assumed that “blackness” is referring to dark skin color, but there is nothing in the text to justify this interpretation.

• Similar to the description of “blackness” that came upon the people of Canaan in Moses 7:8, the meaning of the word “black” in verse 22 is unclear. A description of Cain’s posterity found earlier in the book of Moses mentions that God did not minister unto them because “their works were in the dark” and “they kept not the commandments of God.”

Mormons today would have us think the people of Canaan were not black as in having black skin but were black as far as being evil minded or having dark-minded souls without Christ's gospel light. But the blackness is descriptive of skin color, not darkness or evil nature of the mind. The seed (posterity) are the people having been born into that race -- to include all, including the little children! Thus, the blackness came upon all the seed of Canaan, not just the asshole men, but women and children, and little babies too!

For behold, the Lord shall curse the land with much heat, and the barrenness thereof shall go forth forever; and there was a blackness came upon all the children of Canaan, that they were despised among all people.

That would include babies and little children who are:

"sullen; having a cloudy look or countenance [...] atrociously wicked; horrible [...] dismal; mournful; calamitous," (LDS Wikipedia apologetic statement)

And Enoch also beheld the residue of the people which were the sons of Adam; and they were a mixture of all the seed of Adam save it was the seed of Cain, for the seed of Cain were black, and had not place among them.

Again, the seed were black, all of them. That would included babies and little children too who according to crafty LDS apologetics are "sullen; having a cloudy look or countenance [...] atrociously wicked; horrible [...] dismal; mournful; calamitous."


Now if you'll take another look at the verse in question and break it down, you will see the separation between white and black people:

• And Enoch also beheld the residue of the people which were the sons of Adam; (ALL THE WHITE PEOPLE)

• and they were a mixture of all the seed of Adam (ALL THE WHITE RACES)

• save it was the seed of Cain, (THIS RACE WAS DIFFERENT AND ISOLATED)

• for the seed of Cain were black, (DARK SKINNED)

• and had not place among them. (NO GOSPEL AND NO PRIESTHOOD, PERIOD!

[Rivendale]

How many patriarchal blessings have the lineage as tribe of Cane?

[Shulem]

How many patriarchal blessings have the lineage as tribe of Cane?

Cain.

I understand that lineage declared through patriarchal blessings was basically subject to the traditional Twelve (12) Tribes of Israel and there were three (3) additional variants for negros: Cain, Ham, or Canaan. But, after 1978, the Curse of Cain™ was lifted and the variants were discontinued and some black members actually received a second blessing adopting them into one of the tribes of Israel.

Of this, however, I'm not sure and lack the data to prove it.

[Rivendale]

I was listening to Bill Reel and RFM on their podcast African Baptism fraud. They had a panel of former Mormons discussing the bann. I think it was Summer Rain (spelling?) Burgess Owen's daughter who said Jane Manning had two patriarchal blessings. She said the second one had the Cain lineage. I tracked it down and couldn't find where it said that but it got me wondering how many explicitly said that.