White privilege is a myth

The Off-Topic forum for anything non-LDS related, such as sports or politics. Rated PG through PG-13.
Post Reply
Icarus
Bishop
Posts: 492
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:15 pm

Re: White privilege is a myth

Post by Icarus »

Cultellus wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:32 pm

Is your point that Ms. Owens is an idiot and you are not?
She is an idiot for the idiotic things she's said, such as calling climate change a hoax and her idiotic denial of systemic racism. She is a paid shill for all things Republican (which happened only after she realized she wasn't going to make enough money shilling for the Left like she used to), and the fact that you put her in the spotlight only because you think her being black helps give her credibility while spreading your racist mantra.
Cultellus wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:32 pm
Is your point that you know a black idiot and people that do not think she is an idiot are racist?
The people who give a college drop out credibility on a subject such as climate change, systemic racism, economics, national security, etc merely because she's black, aren't necessarily idiots. In fact, they're just using her to their own benefit. The people who are idiots are the people who have no education on the subject, yet live in denial about systemic racism because that's what their preferred media sources tell them to believe. You cannot make an argument against systemic racism without mischaracterizing what that is and end up beating a straw man.
Cultellus wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:32 pm
Is your point that she made her decision based on business and opportunity which was racist, because a real black person would ignore business and opportunity to serve your ideology? Did you just call her an Uncle Tom?
This much is obvious. Her Leftist blog wasn't generating enough for her, and she was slamming the Republican party as recently as 2015. Then suddenly, when she recognizes the well funded market and high demand (coupled with extremely low supply) for black Republican shills, she suddenly has a philosophical epiphany?
Cultellus wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:32 pm
Is your point that black people who do not finish college are bigots, or that they are stupid?
My point that anyone choosing to pontificate on a subject the way she does, including other college drop outs like Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh... yes, they're idiots. There is nothing wrong with being ignorant so long as you acknowledge your ignorance. But listening to her is just as bad as listening to Jethro on Facebook, who's profile picture includes a fishing pole, a camouflaged hat and pickup truck, telling you about how COVID and Climate Change is a hoax.
Icarus
Bishop
Posts: 492
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:15 pm

Re: White privilege is a myth

Post by Icarus »

Cultellus wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:30 pm
Icarus wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:16 pm

Idiots are idiots no matter what their skin color. The fact that you think criticizing anyone of color is racism is just another testament to your own ignorance. You're not a serious person. You're a joke. A troll. And a moron.
That is absolutely not the case, Icarus. You made a racist comment and expressed a racist position. You called Candace an idiot specifically because she was black and a woman. I am very serious. And you are seriously racist.

You have not justified your assessment of Ms. Owens in any way other than point out that she is black and a woman and a drop out and a capitalist and she is not doing what a black woman should be doing, nor would she be doing this if she had finished school. You are a racist Icarus. Deflect all you want or try and catch up now that you are busted. You are racist and you know it.
Repeating an assertion that's just dumb, won't make it true. There is nothing racist in anything I've said. I've actually called black people idiots to their face and they never once considered it racist. Your attempt to dismiss Owen's history as grifter is pretty funny, but not effective. No one in their right mind will water her history down as mere "capitalism." Trump was also being a good Capitalist when he scammed thousands of people with his Trump University, which the courts forced him to pay back $25 million to the Americans he defrauded. But that doesn't say much for capitalism now does it? Weird how Hunter Biden isn't considered a good capitalist by taking a job that pays him well.

If she had actually attended school and took the relevant courses, she'd at least have credibility to opine on the subject. But the ONLY reason certain people give her credibility is because she says the same dumb crap Republicans have been saying since Rush Limbaugh's rants from the early 90's, and she's black. That's it. It is the same reason the Trump campaign paid the same black man to show up at all his rallies with the "Blacks for Trump" sign and they strategically placed him right behind the podium in an ironic sea of white people.

Every Receipt Proving Candace Owens Is A Con Artist Who Is Following The Money


After skimming through her lists of blatant falsehoods, I'm beginning to wonder how someone can consume and regurgitate so many Right Wing memes within such a short period of time. This has all the hallmarks of a paid hack. Oh, but she's a capitalist and a business woman so its all good right?

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/l ... dace-owens
User avatar
canpakes
God
Posts: 8516
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:25 am

Re: White privilege is a myth

Post by canpakes »

Icarus wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:15 pm
Cultellus wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:21 pm
Chap and Icarus have concluded that a person with a specific skin color is expected to behave a specific way and not doing so is the result of dropping out of college and being a woman and being an idiot.

Unlike Chap and Icarus, I reject racism and sexism.
This is not our position, and for you to keep asserting such nonsense is proof of not only your stupidity, but the inability to discuss anything intelligently.
Cultellus seems a bit on the racist side if he immediately sees criticism of a person as necessarily linked to the race of the person.
Icarus
Bishop
Posts: 492
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:15 pm

Re: White privilege is a myth

Post by Icarus »

canpakes wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:20 pm
Icarus wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:15 pm


This is not our position, and for you to keep asserting such nonsense is proof of not only your stupidity, but the inability to discuss anything intelligently.
Cultellus seems a bit on the racist side if he immediately sees criticism of a person as necessarily linked to the race of the person.
A common tactic of racists is to call literally everyone else a racist. For them it makes the word mean nothing, but it doesn't change the fact that they're clearly acting on the behalf of the racist agenda.
User avatar
canpakes
God
Posts: 8516
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:25 am

Re: White privilege is a myth

Post by canpakes »

Icarus wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:22 pm
canpakes wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:20 pm


Cultellus seems a bit on the racist side if he immediately sees criticism of a person as necessarily linked to the race of the person.
A common tactic of racists is to call literally everyone else a racist. For them it makes the word mean nothing, but it doesn't change the fact that they're clearly acting on the behalf of the racist agenda.
I wonder what caused Cultellus to become so blatantly racist.

Do you think that he’s just backed up? Having a bad year? Does he need more bran? Is he just an ig’nant fellow?

What a shame.
Icarus
Bishop
Posts: 492
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:15 pm

Re: White privilege is a myth

Post by Icarus »

canpakes wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:27 pm
Icarus wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:22 pm


A common tactic of racists is to call literally everyone else a racist. For them it makes the word mean nothing, but it doesn't change the fact that they're clearly acting on the behalf of the racist agenda.
I wonder what caused Cultellus to become so blatantly racist.

Do you think that he’s just backed up? Having a bad year? Does he need more bran? Is he just an ig’nant fellow?

What a shame.
He and AM are clearly products of Right Wing propaganda. That has always been racist. Just look at their most listened to guy, Tucker Carlson. HIs long time friend who was the writer for his show, and literally determined what he was supposed to talk about, was fired after texts showed he was a blatant racist. https://apnews.com/article/entertainmen ... 8958d47c50

NEW YORK (AP) — Tucker Carlson’s top writer has resigned from Fox News after secretly posting racist and sexist remarks online.

CNN reported Friday that writer Blake Neff used a pseudonym to write bigoted comments about Black and Asian people, as well as women, on the online forum AutoAdmit.

Neff began working on “Tucker Carlson Tonight” in 2016 and was known as Carlson’s top writer. Neff previously worked as a reporter for the right-wing news outlet The Daily Caller, which Carlson co-founded.

Fox News executives on Saturday said they condemned Neff’s “horrendous and deeply offensive” comments.

ADVERTISEMENT
Last edited by Icarus on Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Atlanticmike
God
Posts: 2721
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:16 pm

Re: White privilege is a myth

Post by Atlanticmike »

Cultellus wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:32 pm
Icarus wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:22 pm
some idiot like Candace Owens means anything. A college drop out who moved from the Left[/url]
Is your point that Ms. Owens is an idiot and you are not?
Is your point that you know a black idiot and people that do not think she is an idiot are racist?
Is your point that you are not calling her an idiot from a position of privilege or wealth, but rather, it is from a place of service and sacrifice?
Is your point that she made her decision based on business and opportunity which was racist, because a real black person would ignore business and opportunity to serve your ideology? Did you just call her an Uncle Tom?
Is your point that black people who do not finish college are bigots, or that they are stupid?
Do you think the same thing about Michael Jordan? He dropped out of college.

Icarus. You are a bigot.
Very well said Cultellus. I'd like to make one observation about something Icarus said. He said about Candice Owens, "a College Dropout who moved from the left to the right as soon as she realized there were wealthy GOP donors willing to pay hard cash if she would only mimic their traditional races talking points." You see, only a true racist would watch a video of a black American women who time after time says she's a conservative, and think she's actually pretending so she can milk rich GOP donors for money! Why would Icarus think that??? Well, in a racist brain like the one Icarus possesses, there's no way to comprehend that black people are individuals. The racist brain has to assign a ulterior motive to the actions of Candice because the racist brain sees black people as a monolithic voting block. The racist brain says, "how dare she leave the Democrat Party, doesn't she realize we supply "those people, blacks" with everything they need!!!"
Remember what a certain politician said last year. " If you're having a problem figuring out if you're for me or Trump, then YOU AIN'T BLACK!" Same racist mindset Icarus possesses. No matter if they're doing it consciously or subconsciously, old racist whitemen like Biden and Icarus don't see black people as " real black people" unless they are under the Democrat tent. That's racist as “F”!!!
Icarus
Bishop
Posts: 492
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:15 pm

Re: White privilege is a myth

Post by Icarus »

Atlanticmike wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:33 pm
Cultellus wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:32 pm


Is your point that Ms. Owens is an idiot and you are not?
Is your point that you know a black idiot and people that do not think she is an idiot are racist?
Is your point that you are not calling her an idiot from a position of privilege or wealth, but rather, it is from a place of service and sacrifice?
Is your point that she made her decision based on business and opportunity which was racist, because a real black person would ignore business and opportunity to serve your ideology? Did you just call her an Uncle Tom?
Is your point that black people who do not finish college are bigots, or that they are stupid?
Do you think the same thing about Michael Jordan? He dropped out of college.

Icarus. You are a bigot.
Very well said Cultellus. I'd like to make one observation about something Icarus said. He said about Candice Owens, "a College Dropout who moved from the left to the right as soon as she realized there were wealthy GOP donors willing to pay hard cash if she would only mimic their traditional races talking points." You see, only a true racist would watch a video of a black American women who time after time says she's a conservative, and think she's actually pretending so she can milk rich GOP donors for money! Why would Icarus think that??? Well, in a racist brain like the one Icarus possesses, there's no way to comprehend that black people are individuals. The racist brain has to assign a ulterior motive to the actions of Candice because the racist brain sees black people as a monolithic voting block. The racist brain says, "how dare she leave the Democrat Party, doesn't she realize we supply "those people, blacks" with everything they need!!!"
Remember what a certain politician said last year. " If you're having a problem figuring out if you're for me or Trump, then YOU AIN'T BLACK!" Same racist mindset Icarus possesses. No matter if they're doing it consciously or subconsciously, old racist whitemen like Biden and Icarus don't see black people as " real black people" unless they are under the Democrat tent. That's racist as “F”!!!
You repeating the same stupidity that was refuted above, doesn't negate the fact that it was already refuted.
User avatar
Atlanticmike
God
Posts: 2721
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:16 pm

Re: White privilege is a myth

Post by Atlanticmike »

Icarus wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:33 pm
Atlanticmike wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:33 pm


Very well said Cultellus. I'd like to make one observation about something Icarus said. He said about Candice Owens, "a College Dropout who moved from the left to the right as soon as she realized there were wealthy GOP donors willing to pay hard cash if she would only mimic their traditional races talking points." You see, only a true racist would watch a video of a black American women who time after time says she's a conservative, and think she's actually pretending so she can milk rich GOP donors for money! Why would Icarus think that??? Well, in a racist brain like the one Icarus possesses, there's no way to comprehend that black people are individuals. The racist brain has to assign a ulterior motive to the actions of Candice because the racist brain sees black people as a monolithic voting block. The racist brain says, "how dare she leave the Democrat Party, doesn't she realize we supply "those people, blacks" with everything they need!!!"
Remember what a certain politician said last year. " If you're having a problem figuring out if you're for me or Trump, then YOU AIN'T BLACK!" Same racist mindset Icarus possesses. No matter if they're doing it consciously or subconsciously, old racist whitemen like Biden and Icarus don't see black people as " real black people" unless they are under the Democrat tent. That's racist as “F”!!!
You repeating the same stupidity that was refuted above, doesn't negate the fact that it was already refuted.
Ohh, by the way, nice to have you Icarus, was your doctor able to adjust your medications to the point you might not throw another temper tantrum and beg Dr shades for help while posting here?? 😁
User avatar
Atlanticmike
God
Posts: 2721
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:16 pm

Re: White privilege is a myth

Post by Atlanticmike »

huckelberry wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:42 pm
Atlanticmike wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:44 am


Seeing someone as a victim definitely makes them less than. It's the victor/victim mentality that can be harmful over a lifetime of someone who considers themselves as a victim. You've probably seen how I've railed against critical race theory in many threads. That's because it promotes the victim mentality for black Americans starting at birth. I don't think we're to far apart in this issue huckleberry. Would you watch this video and tell me what you think?
https://youtu.be/wxOf1QM46jg
Atlanticmike. I watched this one video. I think he makes some valid points. White people upset about being white is silly and useless.
White people playing savior is not particularly helpful but pretentious.

Health care or food assistance treat blacks and whites the same and are used by both in the same way. Whether or not expanded government role in health care is a good idea it is not something focused on black people. views in favor of those things see them as helping the whole country.

..........
My thought about your victim victor observation is that I was not thinking of victors here. I can see however if a group of people feel like they have been held back by force and strong arm devices they may see those doing that as victors and experience serious discouragement. They also might experience anger, rersentment determination, resolve, endurance.Not all of those reactions are health. Either way it is healthier for all if the forceful or manipulative methods which have so widely been used in America stop.Many of them have.

That is what the fellow in that video suggested would be actually helpful. He is correct.
Thank you for taking the time to watch the video sir.
Post Reply