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huckelberry wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:33 pm
Lee, glad to hear you are alive and kicking.
You know. I’m glad you said that. I actually thought about LEE UNIVERSE a few times over the last few years. I was worried about him, in particular, last year. After he declined my offer to drive up to his apartment every day, and do pt with him, I was sure he was depressed, but what can you do? So, and I’m being 100% honest here, I’m glad and heartened to see he’s alive.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:38 pm
huckelberry wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:33 pm
Lee, glad to hear you are alive and kicking.
You know. I’m glad you said that. I actually thought about LEE UNIVERSE a few times over the last few years. I was worried about him, in particular, last year. After he declined my offer to drive up to his apartment every day, and do pt with him, I was sure he was depressed, but what can you do? So, and I’m being 100% honest here, I’m glad and heartened to see he’s alive.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:38 pm
huckelberry wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:33 pm
Lee, glad to hear you are alive and kicking.
You know. I’m glad you said that. I actually thought about LEE UNIVERSE a few times over the last few years. I was worried about him, in particular, last year. After he declined my offer to drive up to his apartment every day, and do pt with him, I was sure he was depressed, but what can you do? So, and I’m being 100% honest here, I’m glad and heartened to see he’s alive.

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why were you going to drive to his apartment and do proton therapy with him?
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Atlanticmike wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:50 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:38 pm


You know. I’m glad you said that. I actually thought about LEE UNIVERSE a few times over the last few years. I was worried about him, in particular, last year. After he declined my offer to drive up to his apartment every day, and do pt with him, I was sure he was depressed, but what can you do? So, and I’m being 100% honest here, I’m glad and heartened to see he’s alive.

-Doc
why were you going to drive to his apartment and do proton therapy with him?
Because we both needed it, and I cared enough to offer to drive ~60 miles round trip every day to help him lose weight. I’m a retired 1SG/MSG, and thought it’d be good to adopt LEE UNIVERSE as my Soldier - NCOs take care of their Soldiers. Now that I’m 6-years-retired I’ve moved past that period of my life, so I hope he’s taking care of his body and mind.

eta: Forgot to add LEE UNIVERSE did some enlisted time, hence ‘adopting’ him as one of my Soldiers. Once a servicemember, always a servicemember.

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leeuniverse wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:09 pm
canpakes wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:50 pm
To be fair, Trump’s exact words were:

And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning.

Bleach is a disinfectant, so it could qualify.

: )
And his statement had a "wider context" which is being entirely IGNORED...
Thus, claiming what he said as anything "like" him saying people should "inject bleach" is called LYING.
So, please be actually "more fair" if you're actually claiming to be "fair".

You're actually demonstrating exactly what I said of the Left in this post.
You cherry-pick, and then you create a false conclusion and claim THAT is the "truth and facts".
Nope. What I’m saying disproves your opening assertion, because I’ve given the exact quote. So much for the claim about “EVERYONE ON THE LEFT!!” saying that bleach was specifically mentioned (I’m guessing that you include me in with ‘the Left’ because I don’t agree with all of your rants).

Anyhow, here’s the full quote from Former Guy:
“I see disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute, and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that. So you’re going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute, that’s pretty powerful.”

(You can easily find that quote from multiple sources, which disproves a second assertion of yours, that the ‘wider’ context isn’t ever provided by ‘the Left’/Evil Mainstream Media. :) )

At least one major manufacturer of a ‘disinfectant’ (the Lysol folks) felt it necessary to immediately issue a request for Americans to not take the Former Guy too literally, for the good of their own health:
“As a global leader in health and hygiene products, we must be clear that under no circumstance should our disinfectant products be administered into the human body (through injection, ingestion or any other route).”
I’m obviously having some fun here while pointing out the problem with your broad generalizations, but you have to admit, Trump’s statement wasn't the brightest, and there really aren’t too many disinfectants that you can safely put inside the body, either to beat up on COVID, or for any other reason.
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Atlanticmike wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:50 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:38 pm


You know. I’m glad you said that. I actually thought about LEE UNIVERSE a few times over the last few years. I was worried about him, in particular, last year. After he declined my offer to drive up to his apartment every day, and do pt with him, I was sure he was depressed, but what can you do? So, and I’m being 100% honest here, I’m glad and heartened to see he’s alive.

-Doc
why were you going to drive to his apartment and do proton therapy with him?
Why? Because that's a good man right there. That's why.
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Hey Lee/LDSfaqs, how have you been?

Did you catch this story about Trump calling that policeman involved in that shooting at the White House a murderer? It seems like he is pinning a target on that officer's back. What do you think?

https://www.businessinsider.com/Trump-s ... itt-2021-8
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leeuniverse wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:35 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAx1waQKT68

This video is a perfect example of how Leftists (as well as Anti-Mormons) "Judge" things, and use what's actually in their minds as if that's the same thing as Facts and Reality.
The Leftist judges a single thing, such as just hearing the man say something that "could" sound suspicious and seeing a black player in front of him (those are their "facts" and "evidence"), and they then claim they are making an "accurate" judgment of the situation based on those facts and evidence.

In contrast, what do the ACTUAL FACTS say...?

1. While one could say that there IS "some" sound similarity from other words to the "N-word" if a person actually pays more careful attention, he's clearly stating a HARD "D", not, in fact, an "N". Only lazy listening turns that D into an "N", and it's not even a close comparison. The guy was actually very clear in his "D".

2. The Fan is clearly "turned" his body a little, his head is turned, and looking, as well waving his hand in an entirely different direction from the black player when he yells the words.

3. He was facing the Mascot doing this, which is named "Dinger"...

In conclusion, he was NOT saying the "n-word", and he was NOT doing so toward the black player, as the actual FACTS clearly show, Leftists simply see and hear what they want to, ignoring the FULL facts that might validate or debunk their initial assumptions.
This is exactly the same in what they've done to Trump and the Right for example...

- Claiming Trump said to "inject bleach".
- Claiming Trump said the white supremes were "good people".
I can go on and on what the Left falsely says of the Right and Important subjects, whether it's police killing blacks all over, the American system is "systemically racist"... etc. etc. how their "narrative" is the "truth" rather than what the actual Truth is.

The Left think and see things on the "surface" and then jump to false conclusions.

- More blacks in prison, then that must mean the "system" and "police" are "racist" against blacks, they are just locking up "innocent" blacks left and right. When in reality, blacks simply commit a LOT of crime... For example, they commit 50% of all Murders, even though they are 13% of the population. When you actually compare the "Reports" of crimes, the arrests, and the prosecution and conviction, there is ZERO disparity. In other words, there are no "innocent" blacks being arrested, prosecuted, and put in prison to cause such high prison rates of the black population. As well, blacks tend to have longer records thus they are more likely to be sentenced to different lengths than others.

Now, nobody is saying that a "tiny minority" due to poverty might not get the best in representation, thus not able to "get off" as easily as some other races, but this also happens to those of other races. But, let's be clear, these days almost nobody is being convicted because they are actually "innocent" (save when it's been politicized as Leftists have done, charging and convicting the innocent or actual victims, rather than the actual criminals and MOB such as going after some of Trump's people, Kyle Rittenhouse, etc.).

There we can see actual injustice occurring, contrary to the LIES the Left engage in.

So, I've demonstrated here an example of "how" the Left, as well as Anti-Mormons, essentially judge EVERYTHING in life, especially if it's about the Right, or an Important Subject in life. This is HOW I KNOW the Left and the Anti-Mormon lies almost any time they open their mouths, because I do this SAME analysis of whatever the issue is, I see what they say, their "evidence" (i.e. it sounds like he said the N-word, and then there is a black man there), and then I look at the FULL facts and see if that's what the Facts ACTUALLY SAY.

And guess what, 99.9% of the time, the facts don't actually bear out what they are saying is the truth and facts.
Great post! But I have a question. In your post you ask, " in contrast what do the actual facts say?" When it comes to politics, are there actually "facts" right now? Is there actually any truth in politics? It seems to me that in today's polarized political climate people are choosing sides FIRST, then accepting the "facts" that side spoon feeds them on a daily basis through multiple media and online outlets. Basically, in my opinion, I think the media is becoming a religion of sorts. I mean, just look on this forum. Trump/Trumpsters/conservatives are demonized constantly and called idiots. I know liberals who were scared of any one they saw with a Make America great again hat. The hat is a sign of white Supremacy. On the conservative side I know some people who think the LGBT community is going to take over the United States. That liberals are minions of Satan. Each side has their own "facts" and inside their set of "facts" is where the "truth" can be found. Are we being forced or talked out of the superhuman religions we have grown up in to just be forced or manipulated to believe in a secular religion??
I honestly believe that for some reason the powers that be are taking advantage of us being a very tribal species. Social media allows them to spoon feed us their narrative 24/7 now. It's like a never ending Sunday school class.
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