COVID 1984: Let's be like New Zealand

[ajax18]

A year ago people were lauding New Zealand and Australia as showing the way to COVID eradication with their extremely strict lockdowns. After a year of living in a biomedical security state, where do the island nations find themselves once again? That's right, locked down! How much better off are they now for the lockdowns they imposed over the last year and half?

New Zealand entered a strict three-day national lockdown Tuesday after a single case of coronavirus was detected in Auckland, the first locally transmitted example in six months.

The last community outbreak in the South Pacific nation was in February and New Zealand has reported just 26 virus deaths nationally since the pandemic began.

Despite that virus-free stretch, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern confirmed she would move to Alert Level Four on the presumption the Delta variant has been isolated, saying it was important for the country to “go hard and go early.”

Level Four means reducing contact between people to the bare, essential minimum with the closing of schools, offices and all businesses with only essential services remaining operational.

“As we’ve seen overseas, particularly in Sydney, unnecessary trips outdoors can spread the virus,” the former president of the International Union of Socialist Youth said. (see below)

There is no immediate link between this case and any possible breach of the New Zealand border.

“We will not be able to identify if this is a case of the Delta variant until genome sequencing comes back tomorrow,”Ardern said.

Just around 20 percent of the New Zealand population has been fully vaccinated, the New Zealand Herald reports, with the underlining principle for Level Four designed to reduce contact between people to a bare minimum with essential contact only.

“That means the simplest thing New Zealanders can do to reduce the spread of virus is to stay at home. Beating Delta means lifting our game.

“I ask New Zealanders to follow the rules to the letter,” the hard-left Labour Party leader cautioned.

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021/08/ ... -reported/

[canpakes]

How much better off are they now for the lockdowns they imposed over the last year and half?

Check their COVID death count.

New Zealand: 26

USA: 622,000

[Morley]

A year ago people were lauding New Zealand and Australia as showing the way to COVID eradication with their extremely strict lockdowns. After a year of living in a biomedical security state, where do the island nations find themselves once again? That's right, locked down! How much better off are they now for the lockdowns they imposed over the last year and half?

1) Australia is a continent, not an island.

2) If the 'lockdown' stopped people from dying, the country is much better off than they would have been had they not imposed it. Wouldn't you agree?

Here, in the US, if we stop a school shooting, but another school shooting could still happen next year--because after all, we still have guns--aren't we still better off to have stopped the first school shooting?

I'm uncertain what you're trying to say here, Ajax.
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[ajax18]

How much better off are they now for the lockdowns they imposed over the last year and half?

Check their COVID death count.

New Zealand: 26

USA: 622,000

Now let's look at that as a percentage of the population.

0.17% of the US population died from COVID
0.0000005% of the New Zealand population

Neither case even approaches being worth the reduction in quality of life due to the economic devastation of these lockdowns.

[canpakes]

Check their COVID death count.

New Zealand: 26

USA: 622,000

Now let's look at that as a percentage of the population.

0.17% of the US population died from COVID
0.0000005% of the New Zealand population

Neither case even approaches being worth the reduction in quality of life due to the economic devastation of these lockdowns.

That’s like saying that seat belts aren’t worth using because they seem to work.

[ajax18]

If the 'lockdown' stopped people from dying, the country is much better off than they would have been had they not imposed it. Wouldn't you agree?

Eradication is not a reasonable goal with COVID.

Beyond that all I can chalk our differences up to is that I value quality of life much more than I do avoiding death.

That’s like saying that seat belts aren’t worth using because they seem to work.

No it's like saying just because three people died in a car accident last weekend it's not worth it to force everyone to walk to work or just not go Monday morning.

[Morley]

Check their COVID death count.

New Zealand: 26

USA: 622,000

Now let's look at that as a percentage of the population.

0.17% of the US population died from COVID
0.0000005% of the New Zealand population

Neither case even approaches being worth the reduction in quality of life due to the economic devastation of these lockdowns.

By and large, New Zealanders don't agree (just look at Ardern's re-election results last year). But then, who are they to make such determinations about themselves?
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[canpakes]

No it's like saying just because three people died in a car accident last weekend it's not worth it to force everyone to walk to work or just not go Monday morning.

Maybe that’s not a bad idea, if nobody knows just how to stop that car yet, and it’s still screaming down the streets.

[ajax18]

By and large, New Zealanders don't agree (just look at Ardern's re-election results last year). But then, who are they to make such determinations about themselves?
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Fair enough. Just don't ask other countries to pay for it. Attending the Australian open is no longer on the bucket list for most of us. I wouldn't be surprised if the tour just cancelled that Grand Slam.

[Morley]

Check their COVID death count.

New Zealand: 26

USA: 622,000

Now let's look at that as a percentage of the population.

0.17% of the US population died from COVID
0.0000005% of the New Zealand population

Neither case even approaches being worth the reduction in quality of life due to the economic devastation of these lockdowns.

If I remember correctly, New Zealand's population is about 5 million. Even glancing at your math, I can tell it's wrong.
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