COVID 1984: Let's be like New Zealand

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Re: COVID 1984: Let's be like New Zealand

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Maybe that’s not a bad idea, if nobody knows just how to stop that car yet, and it’s still screaming down the streets.
Or perhaps no more driving until Elon Musk has perfected autopilot. Until then we all must live off stimulus checks and quantitative easing. Just tax the rich and we'll all be able to live in relative luxury.
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Morley wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:56 pm
I'm uncertain what you're trying to say here, Ajax.
He's saying everyone should be armed with an AK-15 rather than have pandemic safety regulations.
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:18 pm
By and large, New Zealanders don't agree (just look at Ardern's re-election results last year). But then, who are they to make such determinations about themselves?
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Fair enough. Just don't ask other countries to pay for it. Attending the Australian open is no longer on the bucket list for most of us. I wouldn't be surprised if the tour just cancelled that Grand Slam.
Who is asking other countries to pay for New Zealand's COVID decisions?

What does you possibly attending the Australia Open sometime in the future have to do with New Zealand's present-day COVID policy decisions? That would be like me saying I'm never going to Quebec City because New York ousted Cuomo.
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Moksha wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:28 pm
Morley wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:56 pm
I'm uncertain what you're trying to say here, Ajax.
He's saying everyone should be armed with an AK-15 rather than have pandemic safety regulations.

That’ll work, as long as you aim for between the spike proteins.
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:18 pm
Fair enough. Just don't ask other countries to pay for it.
United States external debt per capita = 68,007 (102% of GDP)
New Zealand external debt per capita = 38,400 (90% of GDP)

Largest holder of New Zealand government bonds = The Reserve Bank of New Zealand
Largest holder of United States government bonds = China
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:03 pm

Beyond that all I can chalk our differences up to is that I value quality of life much more than I do avoiding death.
And in New Zealand, they’re judging ‘quality of life’ to include not getting sick or killing off their vulnerable populations. They’re presupposing that quality of life is about much more than a bunch of money.

I’m sure you would agree. I’ve read you writing about your love for your daughter.
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What Ajax is missing is this is New Zealand's first major lock-down in a year. Their strategy is eradication, which means they don't let case numbers grow before bringing in restrictions. This factor as well as having no land borders results in much less time their population spends in restrictions then other areas like the US. 3 days is a short time.

I would add the Maritime provinces in Canada have done a similar strategy with similar results.
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What does you possibly attending the Australia Open sometime in the future have to do with New Zealand's present-day COVID policy decisions? That would be like me saying I'm never going to Quebec City because New York ousted Cuomo.
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Their quarantines were so restrictive in New Zealand and Australia that many tour level players just skipped the tournament. Many other businesses are going to be hurt in similar ways in these countries. These draconian lockdowns are not without a cost and I don't think quantitative easing and taxing the rich will keep food on on their tables forever.
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:30 pm
What does you possibly attending the Australia Open sometime in the future have to do with New Zealand's present-day COVID policy decisions? That would be like me saying I'm never going to Quebec City because New York ousted Cuomo.
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Their quarantines were so restrictive in New Zealand and Australia that many tour level players just skipped the tournament. Many other businesses are going to be hurt in similar ways in these countries.
Australia and New Zealand are two separate countries. The Australia Open has nothing to do with COVID policies in New Zealand. Surely you understand that.
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Themis wrote:
Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:30 pm
What Ajax is missing is this is New Zealand's first major lock-down in a year. Their strategy is eradication, which means they don't let case numbers grow before bringing in restrictions. This factor as well as having no land borders results in much less time their population spends in restrictions then other areas like the US. 3 days is a short time.

I would add the Maritime provinces in Canada have done a similar strategy with similar results.
I believe Taiwan adopted a similar strategy, although I haven't looked at its numbers in months.
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