Afghanistan

[Alf'Omega]

Define withdrawing "flawlessly." I don't know of anyone on the left who has said it was flawless.

There were 14,000 troops in 2017 and Trump pulled out 90% of them gradually over four years. Biden is President when the last plane takes off and suddenly we're acting like he caused a nightmare. Why?

Biden extended the agreed upon deadline of May 1st, but he's being attacked because... it wasn't "flawless"?

What's astonishing to me is how the media is ignoring clues for optimism. The Taliban officials whenever interviewed, have said they will allow women to continue their education. That's huge. Roughly 200,000 of them have "taken control" of most the country with hardly a shot fired. That says something. Images of the Taliban suggest they're overwhelmingly young. Many of them were likely born around 9/11/01. So why was it so easy for this downtrodden paramilitary outfit to recruit so many youngsters from the general population? The media want us to believe the Taliban will be performing mass executions of the general population once we leave. I doubt that.

[Moksha]

Could this Taliban act beneficial administrators rather than religious zealots?

[ajax18]

The other thing I noticed was that the Afghan army had 50,000 casualties in the last couple years. The US had maybe one or two. I don't think it's fair to say that the Afghan's weren't willing to fight.

[Chap]

I don't think it's fair to say that the Afghan's weren't willing to fight.

Indeed. But to fight (as opposed to simply waiting for someone to come and try to kill them), troops need:

(a) Leadership (both military and civilian) they have reason to trust will not abandon them and will act according to a strategic plan.
(b) Food.
(c) Resupply of arms and weapons.

None of these seem to have been provided to them on any reliable basis.

[ajax18]

(a) Leadership (both military and civilian) they have reason to trust will not abandon them and will act according to a strategic plan.
(b) Food.
(c) Resupply of arms and weapons.

That's what the 0.5% of our national budget was paying for was it not? In return, we got fewer 9/11 attacks.

Do you think Biden saying that American troops are being forced to fight a war that the Afghan people were not willing to fight is a lie?

[canpakes]

That's what the 0.5% of our national budget was paying for was it not? In return, we got fewer 9/11 attacks.

None of the 9/11 attackers were from Afghanistan. The threat is a bit more broad than that.

[ajax18]

That's what the 0.5% of our national budget was paying for was it not? In return, we got fewer 9/11 attacks.

None of the 9/11 attackers were from Afghanistan. The threat is a bit more broad than that.

That's why I said fewer 9/11 attacks. The threat is probably more broad now after this poorly planned withdraw.

Good foreign policy is to be a good friend and a terrible enemy. Right now American is a pretty soft enemy and a terrible friend.

[Alf'Omega]

None of the 9/11 attackers were from Afghanistan. The threat is a bit more broad than that.

That's why I said fewer 9/11 attacks. The threat is probably more broad now after this poorly planned withdraw.

Good foreign policy is to be a good friend and a terrible enemy. Right now American is a pretty soft enemy and a terrible friend.

Based on your readings from Brietbart no doubt.

Biden merely let Trump's agreement plan playout, so your problem is with Trump. The Trump administration is who decided to negotiate with the Taliban on the terms of withdrawal, to the exclusion of the existing government. Trump is the one who told them we'd be out by May 1st. Trump is the one who withdrew 90% of our troops prior to Biden's administration.

[Alf'Omega]

Terrible in two ways. We betray our allies and we are weak. But hey, getting woker every day.

Who got betrayed?

You mean like Trump did in Syria?

Former U.S. officials criticize Trump's decision to 'abandon' Kurds

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

None of the 9/11 attackers were from Afghanistan. The threat is a bit more broad than that.

That's why I said fewer 9/11 attacks. The threat is probably more broad now after this poorly planned withdraw.

Good foreign policy is to be a good friend and a terrible enemy. Right now American is a pretty soft enemy and a terrible friend.

Where was this complaining last year?