Afghanistan

The Off-Topic forum for anything non-LDS related, such as sports or politics. Rated PG through PG-13.
Post Reply
User avatar
Res Ipsa
God
Posts: 10636
Joined: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:44 pm
Location: Playing Rabbits

Re: Afghanistan

Post by Res Ipsa »

And, seriously, which “American citizens” are being left behind?
he/him
we all just have to live through it,
holding each other’s hands.


— Alison Luterman
User avatar
Atlanticmike
God
Posts: 2721
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:16 pm

Re: Afghanistan

Post by Atlanticmike »

Alf'Omega wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:46 pm
Atlanticmike wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:55 pm
Maybe if Jim Crow Joe would have pulled the American civilians out along with the weapons before the military left we I wouldn't be going through this crap. “F” common sense right??
You mean the military Trump pulled out before inauguration day? Like, all but 1,500 troops had departed. How many civilians did Trump evacuate again? In November he said all troops would be out by Christmas. How many civilians did he get out first? Thus far, Biden has evacuated more than 70,000 civilians in just the past couple weeks. That's 70,000 more than Trump did during the four years he kept talking about getting everyone out.

The fact is the Afghans laying down their weapons like scaredy cats was something no one could have predicted. That is the only reason we're even stressing about this. Their cowardice isn't Bidens fault, but Trump negotiating with the Taliban instead of the Afghan government we helped create probably sent a loud message to them that says "we know the Taliban really runs the show."
Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump!!!!!!!!!!😂
User avatar
Atlanticmike
God
Posts: 2721
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:16 pm

Re: Afghanistan

Post by Atlanticmike »

Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 3:05 pm
And, seriously, which “American citizens” are being left behind?
I thought you had me on ignore
Alf'Omega
2nd Counselor
Posts: 409
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:42 pm

Re: Afghanistan

Post by Alf'Omega »

Atlanticmike wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 3:12 pm
Alf'Omega wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:46 pm


You mean the military Trump pulled out before inauguration day? Like, all but 1,500 troops had departed. How many civilians did Trump evacuate again? In November he said all troops would be out by Christmas. How many civilians did he get out first? Thus far, Biden has evacuated more than 70,000 civilians in just the past couple weeks. That's 70,000 more than Trump did during the four years he kept talking about getting everyone out.

The fact is the Afghans laying down their weapons like scaredy cats was something no one could have predicted. That is the only reason we're even stressing about this. Their cowardice isn't Bidens fault, but Trump negotiating with the Taliban instead of the Afghan government we helped create probably sent a loud message to them that says "we know the Taliban really runs the show."
Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump!!!!!!!!!!😂

This is the idiot's way of dodging their own hypocrisy. You want to blame one guy for a situation caused by another guy for no other reason than partisan politics. You want to whine like a little bitch about Biden's role in Afghanistan but any mention of the broader context sends you into a tizzy because that context proves what a bunch of disingenuous hypocrites the Right Wing has become.

Trump brokered the "peace" deal with the Taliban.
Trump released 5,000 Taliban prisoners many of whom ended up at the negotiating table.
Trump left the existing Afghan government out of negotiations.
Trump removed 98% of our troops prior to leaving office.
Trump is responsible for successfully evacuating precisely zero civilians.

But we can't talk about any of that because FOX News has you laser focused on

BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN BIDEN
Alf'Omega
2nd Counselor
Posts: 409
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:42 pm

Re: Afghanistan

Post by Alf'Omega »

Atlanticmike wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 3:13 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 3:05 pm
And, seriously, which “American citizens” are being left behind?
I thought you had me on ignore
Another troll's attempt to avoid answering a direct question.

No Americans have been "left behind." That is just a despicable lie.
User avatar
Atlanticmike
God
Posts: 2721
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:16 pm

Re: Afghanistan

Post by Atlanticmike »

FORMER NAVY SEALS MESSAGE TO BIDEN GOES VIRAL AMID CHAOS IN AFGHANISTAN

https://youtu.be/kiGvVSu3C-g
User avatar
Res Ipsa
God
Posts: 10636
Joined: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:44 pm
Location: Playing Rabbits

Re: Afghanistan

Post by Res Ipsa »

Alf'Omega wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:03 pm
Atlanticmike wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 3:13 pm

I thought you had me on ignore
Another troll's attempt to avoid answering a direct question.

No Americans have been "left behind." That is just a despicable lie.
Mike may not understand how “ignore” works. When Mike quotes me in a post, I get notified. To clear the notification, I have to click on item. That takes me to the post, which only tells me that Mike has posted but the post is hidden.

But, if someone else quotes Mike’s post, then I see it. It’s an artifact of the way ignore works. I don’t stop reading thread just because Mike posts in them. So, it’s inevitable that I’ll see some of his posts. He stated something that doesn’t jibe with what I’ve read, and so asked the question.

I didn’t read his response until it appeared in this quote. And, yes, it is a typical trollish deflect and derail tactic to try and draw attention away from his own claim.
he/him
we all just have to live through it,
holding each other’s hands.


— Alison Luterman
User avatar
Atlanticmike
God
Posts: 2721
Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:16 pm

Re: Afghanistan

Post by Atlanticmike »

Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:16 pm
Alf'Omega wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:03 pm


Another troll's attempt to avoid answering a direct question.

No Americans have been "left behind." That is just a despicable lie.
Mike may not understand how “ignore” works. When Mike quotes me in a post, I get notified. To clear the notification, I have to click on item. That takes me to the post, which only tells me that Mike has posted but the post is hidden.

But, if someone else quotes Mike’s post, then I see it. It’s an artifact of the way ignore works. I don’t stop reading thread just because Mike posts in them. So, it’s inevitable that I’ll see some of his posts. He stated something that doesn’t jibe with what I’ve read, and so asked the question.

I didn’t read his response until it appeared in this quote. And, yes, it is a typical trollish deflect and derail tactic to try and draw attention away from his own claim.
Yes Mike understands how ignore works. I just find it extremely funny that you guys think somehow this Afghanistan fuk up has something to do with the Trump Administration. Let me make it really simple so you college-educated Ding Dongs can understand it. Pull the Americans who don't have the guns (civilians) then pull the Americans who have the guns (military)! Jim Crow Joe did the exact opposite. He's a buffoon and an idiot!!
Alf'Omega
2nd Counselor
Posts: 409
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:42 pm

Re: Afghanistan

Post by Alf'Omega »

Well this is great news. FOX Probably won't even report on it because its too good.

German envoy says Taliban agree to let Afghans travel after Aug. 31

The Taliban have agreed to let Afghan nationals with legal documents travel after Aug. 31, German Ambassador to Afghanistan Markus Potzel tweeted Wednesday. https://Twitter.com/PotzelMarkus/status ... 3102443525
User avatar
canpakes
God
Posts: 8511
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:25 am

Re: Afghanistan

Post by canpakes »

Atlanticmike wrote:
Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:26 pm
I just find it extremely funny that you guys think somehow this Afghanistan fuk up has something to do with the Trump Administration. Let me make it really simple so you college-educated Ding Dongs can understand it. Pull the Americans who don't have the guns (civilians) then pull the Americans who have the guns (military)! Jim Crow Joe did the exact opposite. He's a buffoon and an idiot!!

Nope. Here’s how that went:

On 17 November 2020, acting US Secretary of Defense Christopher C. Miller announced further withdrawals of troops by 15 January 2021, leaving 2,500 troops across both Afghanistan and Iraq, down from the previous amount of 4,500 and 3,000, respectively. US National Security Advisor Robert C. O'Brien issued a statement on behalf of President Trump that it was his hope the incoming Biden administration would have all US troops "come home safely, and in their entirety" by their previously agreed 1 May 2021, deadline.[58] Joe Biden had previously signalled his support for the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan during his presidential campaign,[59] although he left room for the possibility that the US would be "open to maintaining a small number of troops in the country whose mission would focus solely on counterterrorism operations".[60]

The Pentagon announced on 17 November 2020, that it would reduce the number of US forces in Afghanistan from 4,500 to 2,500 by mid-January, i.e. by 15 January 2021, before President Trump's term of office expires on 20 January 2021.
Post Reply