Airlines trialing lie flat seating for coach travelers

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by the way, I get tested every week.
Why, does your work require it? How much does that cost you out of pocket?
I go shopping, I ride around town, I even go to restaurants on occasion. And yet, I've never contracted the virus. Am I lucky? Maybe, but I also wear a mask everywhere I go and I try to keep a good distance from anyone I see.
Have you flown to Brazil since February 2020?
There have only been a couple people in our neighborhood who've been infected.
Did they die? Are they permanently disabled?

That's just the dumbest advice in the world, and anyone suggesting it while licensed to practice medicine should be banned from the medical profession entirely.
The only place you're going to find doctors promoting lockdowns is in academia where they get paid whether they see patients or not. I know people with political views like yours Icarus. We hit the tennis courts every day of the lockdown. They're not scared of it and if they are it wasn't going to stop them from hitting the tennis courts with me darn near every day of the shutdown. As long as it wasn't their income source getting shut down, they were happy to vote Democrat. But there are going to be some major economic damages from these stupid shutdowns that we haven't even felt yet. The only thing left is going to be watching you try to spin the blame for it. Unfortunately that isn't going to do the 99.96% of us who survive this any good.
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ajax18 wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:18 am
The only place you're going to find doctors promoting lockdowns is in academia where they get paid whether they see patients or not. I know people with political views like yours Icarus. We hit the tennis courts every day of the lockdown. They're not scared of it and if they are it wasn't going to stop them from hitting the tennis courts with me darn near every day of the shutdown. As long as it wasn't their income source getting shut down, they were happy to vote Democrat. But there are going to be some major economic damages from these stupid shutdowns that we haven't even felt yet. The only thing left is going to be watching you try to spin the blame for it. Unfortunately that isn't going to do the 99.96% of us who survive this any good.
Again, you sound like an infant the way you ignore the numerous corrections that have been handed to you on this subject alone. No one, even Joe Biden, is supporting "Lockdowns." He's explicitly said he will never lockdown the economy. The closest thing to a lockdown is what we did under DONALD Trump and I don't remember you cursing him out for it then. But hey, you won't even read this. You'll read maybe just enough to realize you're getting your ass handed to you on yet another subject, and then you'll run over to Brietbart to reinforce that tiny brain of yours with good feelings that you're still fighting the good fight. Confirmation bias is all you know.

Your newest lie is that the only doctors who support added restrictions are doctors in academia, which sounds very much like some BS you mined from Brietbart. Just yesterday I saw several doctors interviewed on CNN and MSNBC and these were frontline workers who were in tears because they're telling families about deaths every day and the emotional toll is enormous. When asked what we can do to help, every one of them said the same thing: FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDED GUIDELINES ON SOCIAL DISTANCING AND MASKS. STAY HOME UNLESS YOU ABSOLUTELY NEED TO LEAVE.

Your claim that the only doctors who support heavy mitigation measures are doctors who get paid either way is just pure bunk and insulting to the profession. Here is a list of doctors from just this past few days who have urged Americans to start taking this more seriously:

Doctors Call for More Restrictions and Caution as Virus Surges

This doctor has worked more than 250 days straight dealing with COVID patients. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/hea ... 451760002/
In Houston, Dr. Joseph Varon, chief of staff at United Memorial Medical Center, said he has been working for 251 straight days because of the pandemic.

He said he suspects caseloads at the hospital will get worse as the country awaits a vaccine, especially if people don't take seriously public health officials' exhortations to socially distance and wear masks.

"My concerns for the next six to 12 weeks is that if we don't do things right, America is going to see the darkest days in modern American medical history," Varon told CNN Wednesday.

"My hospital is full. I just opened two new wings so that I can accommodate for the next few days, because I know that a lot of people are going to get sick after Thanksgiving," he said.

"My nurses in the middle of the day, they will start crying, because they are getting so many patients, and it's a never-ending story," Varon said. "When they finish finally getting a patient in, they get a phone call from the ER that there is another patient getting admitted."
But according to you, this guy plays tennis while patients are dying? You're a despicable excuse for a human being as it was, but with each post all you do is reinforce that fact.

And here are other doctors urging Americans to follow guidelines and stay home:
In Nebraska, Dr. Dan Johnson, a critical care anesthesiologist with Nebraska Medicine, a major health network in the region, posted on Facebook about the crisis last week, saying that current measures were not enough to stop the high rate of transmission.

The state has seen new virus cases reach an average of 2,033 cases per day, an increase of 99 percent from two weeks earlier. In the state, masks are required at indoor businesses where close contact is maintained, and indoor gathering limits are set at 25 percent of capacity. Retail stores, restaurants and bars are still open, as are houses of worship.

“This means that individual citizens and families must take matters into our own hands. Strict adherence to social distancing is essential,” Dr. Johnson wrote. “If things get completely out of control, every family in Nebraska will be affected either by a death or by serious illness.”

On Twitter, Dr. Angela Hewlett, an epidemiologist at the University of Nebraska Medical Center, specifically called on the governor to increase “directed health measures,” noting that the number of hospitalizations in the state was “skyrocketing.”

“Our community and our hospitals are suffering,” she said. “We are not an unlimited resource.”

In another appeal on Facebook, Dr. John McCarley, a doctor in Chattanooga, Tenn., noted that local hospitals were filling up. He posted: “I’m not saying we need a lockdown but I am asking everyone to get back to a May 2020 mind-set and routinely wear the mask when indoors around others besides your household.”

On the ABC program “This Week,” Adm. Brett Giroir, the assistant secretary of health and human services, called masks “critically important.” “They’re highly protective against you spreading it to someone else and we also know that it provides you protection from getting it from someone else,” he said.

Chief executives of six hospital systems in northeastern Ohio jointly ran a full-page advertisement in The Cleveland Plain Dealer on Sunday, pleading with the public to “remain on guard” with virus precautions during the holiday season. “We must make sacrifices today — by limiting indoor gatherings — in the hope of better tomorrows,” the hospital executives wrote.

In Amarillo, Texas, an internal medicine doctor said that hospitals in the city were trying to find ways to add additional I.C.U. space, and pleaded with the public to wear a mask and socially distance. “An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure,” Dr. Whit Walker wrote on Facebook. “I see some people inside in a public store without a mask. If you give this virus to me I might give the virus to 5 or 20 other people. One or five of those might die from the virus. Even though you feel well, you can carry this virus. Even if you had the infection in the past, you might get this same virus again. This is real. This is deadly.”

In North Dakota, a state with critically understaffed hospitals and the nation’s highest rates of new cases and deaths per person, doctors have for weeks been asking the government to implement stricter restrictions — in particular a mask mandate.

On Friday, Gov. Doug Burgum finally obliged by announcing several measures, including a mask mandate, a limit on indoor dining of 50 percent capacity or 150 people, and a suspension of high school winter sports and extracurricular activities. The state reported 2,270 new infections on Saturday, 19 deaths and 425 hospitalizations.

And in Missouri — which announced 7,164 new cases on Saturday, the state’s third single-day record in a row, along with 11 deaths and more than 2,400 hospitalizations — health care workers asked government officials to enact more restrictions in response to their dire words of caution with a statement released Thursday by the Missouri Hospital Association.

“We urge Gov. Mike Parson to continue to promote the message that Missourians’ help and compliance is necessary to help prevent catastrophic increases in hospital admissions,” the statement said.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:26 am
Lem wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:18 am
I always thought the sleep pods in The Fifth Element sci fi flick were pretty awesome.
:o :o :o :o :o

On behalf of the claustrophobics of the world. We are horrified by a sense of impending doom just thinking about that.
True. But the forced drug inhalation alleviates that somewhat, right??!

Private train cars are looking more and more inviting these days.
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Lem wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:18 am
I always thought the sleep pods in The Fifth Element sci fi flick were pretty awesome.
To make your flight as short as possible, our flight attendants are switching on the sleep regulator, which will regulate your sleeping during the flight.

First, props to screenwriters Luc Besson & Robert Mark Kamen for absolutely nailing annoying airline doublespeak. “Regulate your sleeping” means “knock you unconscious,” and even when Korben raises a finger to interject, the flight attendant ignores him and presses a button to begin “regulating his sleep.”

Given that ignoring passenger interruptions is standard operating procedure, it’s a nice design feature that the berths are horizontal and less than a meter tall.

https://scifiinterfaces.com/2013/05/17/sleep-regulator/
Just watched "The Fifth Element" on Peacock for free.
To watch on Peacock without commercials use uBlock Origin addon/extension on your browser and when they ask you to turn off your addblocker don't turn it off, just click on continue and there will be no commercials. I hate Microsoft Edge, but on PC it works best for Peacock. I find that Chrome & Firefox have buffering issues on Peacock for me. But Edge streams Peacock flawlessly. You can install the uBlock Origin extension on Edge.
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I loved The Fifth Element, but the Japanese have had Capsule Hotels for a long time.

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MeDotOrg wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:21 am
I loved The Fifth Element, but the Japanese have had Capsule Hotels for a long time.

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:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Does that come with a propofol drip?
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