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Re: The functional banality of LDS temples

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drumdude wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:32 pm
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it doesn't change that the temple and our sealing is a representative piece of our relationship and the bond we share. It is nearly impossible for me to seperate those feelings from the physical place.
I completely respect that. It means something to you personally.

But yes, I'm glad you agree the old world cathedrals are in another category completely. I dare anyone to enter one of those cathedrals and not have your breath taken away in awe. Believer or non-believer, you immediately know you are somewhere very special. Something that took so much time, effort, care, and community effort to create. Something culturally significant that stands the test of time.
I was fortunate enough to be able to visit several cathedrals in France, about 30 years ago - Notre Dame and Sacre Coeur in Paris, and either Chartres or Reims - I don't remember which.

I've also visited several cathedrals in Mexico.

They are all spectacular and awe-inspiring.
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malkie wrote:
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drumdude wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:32 pm


I completely respect that. It means something to you personally.

But yes, I'm glad you agree the old world cathedrals are in another category completely. I dare anyone to enter one of those cathedrals and not have your breath taken away in awe. Believer or non-believer, you immediately know you are somewhere very special. Something that took so much time, effort, care, and community effort to create. Something culturally significant that stands the test of time.
I was fortunate enough to be able to visit several cathedrals in France, about 30 years ago - Notre Dame and Sacre Coeur in Paris, and either Chartres or Reims - I don't remember which.

I've also visited several cathedrals in Mexico.

They are all spectacular and awe-inspiring.
I’ve too the Metropolitan Cathedral in Mexico City a couple of times. It’s amazing.
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Re: The functional banality of LDS temples

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drumdude wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:07 pm
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Hey DD


Forgive my never-Mo ignorance.

What is the meaning and/or purpose of the "two sets of mirrors" is the Sealing room? And what is a "sitting room" used for?

Thanks in advance.
The mirrors symbolize that the sealing will last for eternity. The sitting room is called the Celestial room. Once you are done doing the endowment ceremony you get about 5 minutes to bask in the glory of the sitting room until you're quickly shoved back out on the street.
It's not that they have to be shoved back out on the street. Most couples are in a hurry to get out so that they can lose their "virginity." Virginity being in quotes, because what that means is up for interpretation.
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toon wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:55 pm
drumdude wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:07 pm


The mirrors symbolize that the sealing will last for eternity. The sitting room is called the Celestial room. Once you are done doing the endowment ceremony you get about 5 minutes to bask in the glory of the sitting room until you're quickly shoved back out on the street.
It's not that they have to be shoved back out on the street. Most couples are in a hurry to get out so that they can lose their "virginity." Virginity being in quotes, because what that means is up for interpretation.
Well, let's say that they are not hurrying in order to "soak" :lol:
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toon wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:55 pm
drumdude wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:07 pm


The mirrors symbolize that the sealing will last for eternity. The sitting room is called the Celestial room. Once you are done doing the endowment ceremony you get about 5 minutes to bask in the glory of the sitting room until you're quickly shoved back out on the street.
It's not that they have to be shoved back out on the street. Most couples are in a hurry to get out so that they can lose their "virginity." Virginity being in quotes, because what that means is up for interpretation.
In my case it meant she required us to stop having sex between the engagement and the sealing... Mormons :lol:
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Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:29 pm
These are just efficient functional factories to keep people doing the tedious rituals for the dead.
Yes, they are being designed and built to be more efficient. And yes, the rituals can be a bit tedious at times.

What’s your point?

Not do temple work?

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drumdude wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:07 pm
ceeboo wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:57 pm
Hey DD


Forgive my never-Mo ignorance.

What is the meaning and/or purpose of the "two sets of mirrors" is the Sealing room? And what is a "sitting room" used for?

Thanks in advance.
The mirrors symbolize that the sealing will last for eternity. The sitting room is called the Celestial room. Once you are done doing the endowment ceremony you get about 5 minutes to bask in the glory of the sitting room until you're quickly shoved back out on the street.
Is that what happened to you? If so, we’re you cognizant of the fact at the time…or did this realization come later?

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drumdude wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:21 pm
ceeboo wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:15 pm


Thanks, DD

So once a couple is sealed, they go to the "sitting room/Celestial room" by themselves? Or is that where family members/loved ones would/could join them after a sealing?
Celestial room is at the end of the endowment ceremony, that's separate from sealing ceremony. I don't think Celestial room is used at all during sealings.

Basically the couple and the family show up, check in. The couple goes to the locker room to change into the temple clothes. The family stays in their church clothes. The couple kneels at the altar, the sealing ceremony is performed, and the family and couple leave.

Any non-members have to sit in a waiting room outside the check-in area.
It’s a fairly simple ceremony. But with long range ramifications for believers.

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Re: The functional banality of LDS temples

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drumdude wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:29 pm
ceeboo wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:24 pm
Got it!

Thanks, DD!
Anytime! The experience is really bizarre. It's strange seeing your friends and family dressed up in chef hats and green aprons.
Temple clothing, while different than the clothing worn outside of the temple, has a place in the symbolism in the temple. LDS folks believe that God teaches us through symbolism. For example, the sacrament or Eucharist has symbolic meaning to many Christians. The temple is filled with symbolism that represents the teachings of eternal truth.

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Re: The functional banality of LDS temples

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:19 pm
Not do temple work?
100%. Even if we assume the ridiculous premise that God is bound by these asinine rituals (elderly people watching the same movie 1000 times, falling asleep from boredom), there will be all of eternity to do the bureaucratic busywork.

It's so legalistic, bureaucratic, and trivial and completely counter to everything Christ taught during his ministry in Jerusalem. He literally fought against the Pharisees over exactly this trivial BS. And guess what - LDS temples have money changers in them where you can rent temple clothes and buy food. It's absolutely ridiculous how blind the Mormons are.
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