A few questions on the vax mandate

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A few questions on the vax mandate

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1. Does this vaccine mandate apply to public sector workers like school teachers or postal workers?
2. Do undocumented immigrants seeking asylum have to be vaccinated before they are bussed around to different parts of the interior of the US?
3. For private companies that face a fine for employing unvaccinated workers, if the vaccine damages the health of one of these workers, will the court rule in favor of the worker suing the private employer?
4. Exactly how many vaccinated workers are suffering death or permanent disability due to being exposed to COVID by unvaccinated workers? What percentage of vaccinated people are being hospitalized due to Covid?
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Re: A few questions on the vax mandate

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‘That’s Correct’ — White House Confirms Joe Biden Hypocrisy on Unvaccinated People Crossing Southern Border

The White House confirmed Friday that President Joe Biden would continue allowing unvaccinated people to cross the border — even while demanding private employers to require vaccines for their workers.

White House press secretary Jen Psaki spoke about the hypocritical rules during an exchange in the daily briefing with Fox News reporter Peter Doocy.

“But it’s a requirement for people at a business with more than a hundred people, and it’s not a requirement for migrants at the southern border,” Doocy noted. “Why?”

“That’s correct,” Psaki replied, quickly moving to the next reporter in the briefing room.

Other White House reporters did not follow up and press Psaki on the administration’s hypocrisy.

For months, the White House has refused to endorse a vaccine mandate for migrants released into the United States, even though the administration is enforcing more onerous mandates on American citizens to get them vaccinated.

Biden did not mention the unvaccinated migrant population in his remarks on Thursday, even as he detailed new mandates for businesses to get their employees vaccinated.

The Department of Homeland Security is now offering vaccine shots to border crossers, but some have refused to get the shot.

About 30 percent of migrants held in detention facilities have refused vaccines, according to reports.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021 ... rn-border/
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Re: A few questions on the vax mandate

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So why not force government workers like postmen or public school teachers who come into contact with large numbers of people every day to be vaccinated as well? I can only conclude it's because their unions contribute a lot of money to the Democrat party.

Why are there so many people on the right refusing the vaccine, which I in fact think is a bad decision? It's obvious that the CDC and all these agencies that were supposed to be apolitical are politcal from top to bottom demonstrating the same hypocrisy as our elected officials and the mainstream media. Of course they're not going to trust these people. It makes me think of Kamala Harris refusing to take any vaccine developed under the Trump administration. I wonder if she went ahead and took it herself after attempting to sew mistrust in her constituents during the debate?
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Jesus damned Christ, does it really need to be explained to you why this isn't hypocrisy? Just keep letting the uneducated hacks in right wing media pull on your fragile racist strings like the puppet you are.

Vaccinations have been offered to immigrants since Aug 3rd thanks to Biden. Not everyone wants it, but there is no legal path to forcing it on them. The mandate in force is for employers and it is perfectly legal/constitutional and affects only US workers, not just everyone.
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Re: A few questions on the vax mandate

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ajax18 wrote:
Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:10 pm
So why not force government workers like postmen or public school teachers who come into contact with large numbers of people every day to be vaccinated as well? I can only conclude it's because their unions contribute a lot of money to the Democrat party.

Why are there so many people on the right refusing the vaccine, which I in fact think is a bad decision? It's obvious that the CDC and all these agencies that were supposed to be apolitical are politcal from top to bottom demonstrating the same hypocrisy as our elected officials and the mainstream media. Of course they're not going to trust these people. It makes me think of Kamala Harris refusing to take any vaccine developed under the Trump administration. I wonder if she went ahead and took it herself after attempting to sew mistrust in her constituents during the debate?
You're an uninformed idiot. The vaccine mandate includes the postal service too. You're whining about something that isn't true because you don't have enough respect for truth to do a little googling to see for yourself.

But it's always, respond with hysteria and outrage first, before you get the facts. The Brietbart MO.
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You clowns on the Right don't even have the intellectual honesty to properly describe the mandate. You're framing this as Biden forcing regular Americans to get the jab, but not immigrants. But no one is forced to vaccinate. The mandate is for employers, many if whom already mandate it. Delta Airlines has mandated it fir months now, and employees who don't do it get $200 taken out of their check every week.

This reminds me of the way you called Obamacare "government run healthcare" for years with little pushback from the media. It was a lie, but it served the purpose of scaring the idiots in this country who've been trained to be fearful of just about everything.
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Re: A few questions on the vax mandate

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A couple of questions for you, ajax:

1. Do you have both the honesty and courage to acknowledge at least the possibility that your questions above showed how badly misinformed and biased you are on this issue, based on the well established facts Alf'Omega provided?

2. Do you ever seriously consider the possibility that at least some of your deepest convictions might be nothing more than confirmation bias?
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So we can't force an illegal immigrant to get vaccinated before he enters the US to wait for his asylum claim to be processed but we can force people to get vaccinated or lose their job? Is that right?
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Everyone is welcome. Every opinion is welcome.* Therefore, do not "de-invite" anyone or suggest that they go elsewhere.
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Re: A few questions on the vax mandate

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ajax18 wrote:
Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:36 pm
So we can't force an illegal immigrant to get vaccinated before he enters the US to wait for his asylum claim to be processed but we can force people to get vaccinated or lose their job? Is that right?
Immigrants are tested and the majority of them are vaccinated. you're pretending to really care if they're vaccinated only because that's your Brietbart Fake News flavor of the day. You can't force citizens of any country to be vaccinated but Biden has deported thousands, so stop acting the fool with this jabbering as if everyone who crosses has COVID, isn't vaccinated, and is freely teaming the countryside.

The most the Constitution allows is for the President to create incentives to vaccinate via the Commerce Clause. This isn't really new, companies have the right to require vaccinations of their employees, as do Universities.

Fake News media on the Right is desperately trying to spin this into some scandal.
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