Peril --Woodward and Costa

[Jersey Girl]

The new book is set to premier on Sept 21. Making this new thread because details are starting to come out and we're obviously gonna need a place to discuss.

On the heels of the Jan 6th Insurrection. Excerpts.

Woodward and Costa write that Milley, deeply shaken by the assault, 'was certain that Trump had gone into a serious mental decline in the aftermath of the election, with Trump now all but manic, screaming at officials and constructing his own alternate reality about endless election conspiracies.'

Milley worried that Trump could 'go rogue,' the authors write.

"You never know what a president's trigger point is," Milley told his senior staff, according to the book.
In response, Milley took extraordinary action, and called a secret meeting in his Pentagon office on January 8 to review the process for military action, including launching nuclear weapons. Speaking to senior military officials in charge of the National Military Command Center, the Pentagon's war room, Milley instructed them not to take orders from anyone unless he was involved.

"No matter what you are told, you do the procedure. You do the process. And I'm part of that procedure," Milley told the officers, according to the book. He then went around the room, looked each officer in the eye, and asked them to verbally confirm they understood.

"Got it?" Milley asked, according to the book.
"Yes, sir."
'Milley considered it an oath,' the authors write.

The book also examines Joe Biden's decision to run for office again; the first six months of his presidency; why he pushed so hard to get out of Afghanistan; and how he really feels about Trump. CNN obtained a copy of "Peril" ahead of its release on September 21.

Then Milley received a blunt phone call from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, according to the book. Woodward and Costa exclusively obtained a transcript of the call, during which Milley tried to reassure Pelosi that the nuclear weapons were safe.

Pelosi pushed back.

"What I'm saying to you is that if they couldn't even stop him from an assault on the Capitol, who even knows what else he may do? And is there anybody in charge at the White House who was doing anything but kissing his fat butt all over this?"
Pelosi continued, "You know he's crazy. He's been crazy for a long time."

According to Woodward and Costa, Milley responded, "Madam Speaker, I agree with you on everything."

"Peril" also describes the tense encounter in the Oval Office on January 5 when Trump pressured Pence to overturn the results of the election. While the showdown went on inside, the two men could hear MAGA supporters cheering and chanting outside near Pennsylvania Avenue.

"If these people say you had the power, wouldn't you want to?" Trump asked.

"I wouldn't want any one person to have that authority," Pence said.

"But wouldn't it be almost cool to have that power?" Trump asked, according to Woodward and Costa.

"No," Pence said. He went on, "I've done everything I could and then some to find a way around this. It's simply not possible."
When Pence did not budge, Trump turned on him.

"No, no, no!" Trump shouted, according to the authors. "You don't understand, Mike. You can do this. I don't want to be your friend anymore if you don't do this."

Trump called Pence again the morning of January 6. "If you don't do it, I picked the wrong man four years ago," Trump said, according to the authors. "You're going to wimp out," he said, his anger visible to others in the office.

There's too much to unpack in one post. It goes on and on and on.

READ the article here: https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/14/politics ... index.html

[Doctor Steuss]

"You don't understand, Mike. You can do this. I don't want to be your friend anymore if you don't do this."

I'd like to see what their ultimate source(s) were for this one. It's almost too Trumpish for even Trump.

[Jersey Girl]

"You don't understand, Mike. You can do this. I don't want to be your friend anymore if you don't do this."

I'd like to see what their ultimate source(s) were for this one. It's almost too Trumpish for even Trump.

I was wondering who might pick up on that. You nailed it, Steuss. All that's missing is the-- and you're not coming to my birthday party!

[Alf'Omega]

Apparently Dan Quayle played a huge role in convincing Mike Pence to just ignore Trump's pleas.

[Alf'Omega]

See ex-Trump admin. official's reaction to bombshell Trump book

https://www.cnn.com/videos/media/2021/0 ... -politics/

How could Americans even consider putting someone like this back in office. Someone whose top advisers felt he was a danger to the country?

[Alf'Omega]

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[Chap]

Marjory Taylor Greene says that someone should 'court marshal' General Mark Milley.

I think it is really sad when elected representatives, or the people who deal with their Twitter feed, can't even spell the things they are talking about.

A court-martial is a martial court, i.e. a military court. The order of the adjective and noun are reversed because the term is (like many military terms) borrowed from French (cour martiale). To bring someone before a military court is commonly referred to by saying that they are being 'court-martialled'. Of course, a person brought before such a court may be acquitted.

'Marshal' in US usage means 'a federal or municipal law-enforcement officer'. It has nothing to do with 'martial'. 'Court marshalled' does not make sense.

[ajax18]

So much for the myth of a civilian controlled military. Milley could have refused to carry out the order or threatened to quit. Going to China first was nothing short of treason. He went to China before the election and before Jan 6. It proves that there is a deep state of unelected career Democats who obstruct a Republucan presidents agenda while green lighting the Democrats rule
by imperical executive order. Checks and balances are gone.

The contract between the union of states has been broken. And they wonder why the right has given up on democracy.

[Alf'Omega]

Joint Staff spokesperson Col. Dave Butler confirmed that the calls took place but defended them as proper and in keeping with Milley’s role.

“The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs regularly communicates with Chiefs of Defense across the world, including with China and Russia. These conversations remain vital to improving mutual understanding of U.S. national security interests, reducing tensions, providing clarity, and avoiding unintended consequences or conflict,” Butler’s statement read.

“His calls with the Chinese and others in October and January were in keeping with these duties and responsibilities conveying reassurance in order to maintain strategic stability. All calls from the Chairman to his counterparts, including those reported, are staffed, coordinated, and communicated with the Department of Defense and the interagency.”

Speaking during a press briefing Sept. 15, Pentagon Press Secretary John F. Kirby refused to comment on the “validity” of the report but did say, “I see nothing in what I’ve read that would cause any concern.”

“​​What I can tell you is it is not uncommon at all for the department to continue to review security protocols, particularly when it comes to our strategic deterrence capabilities, that we constantly take a look at the protocols and procedures to make sure they’re still relevant,” Kirby said. “It is completely appropriate for the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, as the senior military advisor to the Secretary and the President, to want to see those protocols reviewed on whatever frequent basis that he wants to do that.”

Kirby appeared to react with surprise when asked if Milley should be tried for treason because of his calls to China as Trump suggested, saying, “Typically, when the Chairman or the Secretary interact with their counterparts, it’s a function of the job. They have to do that.”

“Part of the value in having these communications, particularly with countries like Russia and China, with which we are experiencing tension, is to try to reduce the risks of miscalculation and conflict, to try to take down tensions, to make clear what our national security interests are,” said Kirby. “The communications channel between our Chairman and a chief of defense is a really key vehicle for transmitting and communicating those kinds of messages.”

[ajax18]

If Milley cared about National security he should have refused to comply with Biden's poorly planned withdrawl of Afghanistan. Seeing as these genearls apparently have the right to disregard the orders of a sitting president, Milley is just as much to blame for the casualties in Afghanistan as president house plant Biden.