DJT 2k motives
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DJT 2k motives
Does anyone have any insight into why the Don is pushing for the upgraded $2k for his fellow Americans. As we all know, the man does nothing, for anyone, unless there is a chunk of change attached to it earmarked for him. What is his game? I know the man is stupid, but I believe he actually knows the game is up, so therefor he would have no need to further woo his followers.
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Re: DJT 2k motives
It’s just a guess, but I think he wants the Republicans to lose the Senate since he feels they didn’t support him sufficiently regarding the attempted coup. He comes off as supporting the little guy to his base, and as a result of the Senate tanking free gibs they’ll turn on the GOP. This probably has a longer term strategy with either forming a new Conservative political party or perhaps it’ll have something to do with a post-Presidency career in media. I also think he’s setting up Ivanka and Don Jr. for political runs.
It’s hard to really pin him down since he’s always winging everything.
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Yep, Doc. The only thing we know for sure is it's nefarious.
My wife found this: https://www.Facebook.com/heathercoxrich ... 5158529868
I think I may be mixing up my bills too.
December 27, 2020 (Sunday)
""Tonight, Trump relented and signed the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2021, which includes the coronavirus relief measure and the 2021 appropriations bill (along with other measures).
He accompanied it with a statement claiming he would demand changes to the law, but these have no force; Congress will almost certainly ignore him. He also continued to pressure Senate Republicans to increase payments to individuals and families, saying that the House would vote to increase the amount of stimulus payments on Monday and that the Senate should agree. But he seemed to confuse the CAA with the National Defense Authorization Act he vetoed, said that Congress has agreed to do things it hasn’t, and then threw in complaints about voter fraud. The statement was weirdly disconnected from the way the legislative process actually works.
Trump tried to suggest he was saving the nation from the crisis he, himself, has caused, but it is likely that he finally signed the bill because his stubbornness was not playing well across an increasingly desperate nation, especially as he is golfing at Mar-a-Lago and Vice President Mike Pence is skiing in Vail, Colorado. Americans were generally angry over his inaction on a bill that would provide relief for those suffering from the economic crisis, funding for the distribution of vaccines, and funding for the government. As Senator Chris Murphy (D-CT) pointed out today, "if his goal was really to get a better deal on the budget, he would have vetoed it immediately and begun negotiating. But his goal is actually national arson—chaos for the fun of it. So he sits on the budget—does nothing—in order to guarantee a government shutdown.”
He was also under pressure from Republican Senators, including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), who likely told him his stubbornness was undermining the Republican Senate candidates in Georgia before the January 5 runoff. While Trump is furious with McConnell and the other Senate Republicans who have acknowledged Biden’s win, he is apparently not furious enough that he wants to see McConnell replaced by a Democrat, as would happen if the Senate is split evenly between Republicans and Democrats.
So the CAA will become law, and the drama of lawmaking for this congressional session should be over. But it is not quite over yet. Trump vetoed the National Defense Authorization Act, which specifies how the defense budget will be spent, on Wednesday, December 23. The NDAA has passed with bipartisan majorities since the 1960s when it first began, and presidents have always signed it. But Trump has chosen to veto it, on the grounds that it calls for the renaming of Confederate bases and that it does not strip social media companies of protection from liability when third parties post offensive material on them.
The National Defense Authorization Act this year does something else, though, that seems to me of far more importance to the president than the naming of military bases.
It includes a measure known as the Corporate Transparency Act, which undercuts shell companies and money laundering in America. The act requires the owners of any company that is not otherwise overseen by the federal government (by filing taxes, for example, or through close regulation) to file a report that identifies each person associated with the company who either owns 25% or more of it or exercises substantial control over it. That report, including name, birthdate, address, and an identifying number, goes to the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN). The measure also increases penalties for money laundering and streamlines cooperation between banks and foreign law enforcement authorities.
America is currently the easiest place in the world for criminals to form an anonymous shell company which enables them to launder money, evade taxes, and engage in illegal payoff schemes. The measure will pull the rug out from both domestic and international criminals that take advantage of shell companies to hide from investigators. When journalists from the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists and BuzzFeed, as well as a number of other organizations, dug into documents from FinCEN that had been leaked to BuzzFeed this fall, they discovered shell companies moving money for criminals operating out of Russia, China, Iran, and Syria.
Shell companies also mean that our political system is awash in secrecy. Social media giants like Facebook cannot determine who is buying political advertising. And, as Representative Tom Malinowski (D-New Jersey) noted, shell companies allow “foreign bad actors” to corrupt our system even more directly. “t’s illegal for foreigners to contribute to our campaigns,” he reminded Congress in a speech for the bill, “but if you launder your money through a front company with anonymous ownership there is very little we can do to stop you.”
We know the Trump family uses shell companies: Trump’s fixer Michael Cohen used a shell company to pay off Stormy Daniels, and just this month we learned that Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner approved a shell company that spent more than $600 million in campaign funds.
The new requirements in the NDAA apply not just to future entities, but also to existing ones.
Congress needs to repass the NDAA over Trump’s veto—indeed it is likely that the CTA was included in this measure precisely because the NDAA is must-pass legislation—and both the CTA and the NDAA bill into which is it tucked have bipartisan support. But will Trump sign the NDAA if it contains a provision that undercuts shell companies? Or will congressional Republicans take the CTA out of the must-pass NDAA?"
My wife found this: https://www.Facebook.com/heathercoxrich ... 5158529868
I think I may be mixing up my bills too.
December 27, 2020 (Sunday)
""Tonight, Trump relented and signed the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2021, which includes the coronavirus relief measure and the 2021 appropriations bill (along with other measures).
He accompanied it with a statement claiming he would demand changes to the law, but these have no force; Congress will almost certainly ignore him. He also continued to pressure Senate Republicans to increase payments to individuals and families, saying that the House would vote to increase the amount of stimulus payments on Monday and that the Senate should agree. But he seemed to confuse the CAA with the National Defense Authorization Act he vetoed, said that Congress has agreed to do things it hasn’t, and then threw in complaints about voter fraud. The statement was weirdly disconnected from the way the legislative process actually works.
Trump tried to suggest he was saving the nation from the crisis he, himself, has caused, but it is likely that he finally signed the bill because his stubbornness was not playing well across an increasingly desperate nation, especially as he is golfing at Mar-a-Lago and Vice President Mike Pence is skiing in Vail, Colorado. Americans were generally angry over his inaction on a bill that would provide relief for those suffering from the economic crisis, funding for the distribution of vaccines, and funding for the government. As Senator Chris Murphy (D-CT) pointed out today, "if his goal was really to get a better deal on the budget, he would have vetoed it immediately and begun negotiating. But his goal is actually national arson—chaos for the fun of it. So he sits on the budget—does nothing—in order to guarantee a government shutdown.”
He was also under pressure from Republican Senators, including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), who likely told him his stubbornness was undermining the Republican Senate candidates in Georgia before the January 5 runoff. While Trump is furious with McConnell and the other Senate Republicans who have acknowledged Biden’s win, he is apparently not furious enough that he wants to see McConnell replaced by a Democrat, as would happen if the Senate is split evenly between Republicans and Democrats.
So the CAA will become law, and the drama of lawmaking for this congressional session should be over. But it is not quite over yet. Trump vetoed the National Defense Authorization Act, which specifies how the defense budget will be spent, on Wednesday, December 23. The NDAA has passed with bipartisan majorities since the 1960s when it first began, and presidents have always signed it. But Trump has chosen to veto it, on the grounds that it calls for the renaming of Confederate bases and that it does not strip social media companies of protection from liability when third parties post offensive material on them.
The National Defense Authorization Act this year does something else, though, that seems to me of far more importance to the president than the naming of military bases.
It includes a measure known as the Corporate Transparency Act, which undercuts shell companies and money laundering in America. The act requires the owners of any company that is not otherwise overseen by the federal government (by filing taxes, for example, or through close regulation) to file a report that identifies each person associated with the company who either owns 25% or more of it or exercises substantial control over it. That report, including name, birthdate, address, and an identifying number, goes to the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN). The measure also increases penalties for money laundering and streamlines cooperation between banks and foreign law enforcement authorities.
America is currently the easiest place in the world for criminals to form an anonymous shell company which enables them to launder money, evade taxes, and engage in illegal payoff schemes. The measure will pull the rug out from both domestic and international criminals that take advantage of shell companies to hide from investigators. When journalists from the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists and BuzzFeed, as well as a number of other organizations, dug into documents from FinCEN that had been leaked to BuzzFeed this fall, they discovered shell companies moving money for criminals operating out of Russia, China, Iran, and Syria.
Shell companies also mean that our political system is awash in secrecy. Social media giants like Facebook cannot determine who is buying political advertising. And, as Representative Tom Malinowski (D-New Jersey) noted, shell companies allow “foreign bad actors” to corrupt our system even more directly. “t’s illegal for foreigners to contribute to our campaigns,” he reminded Congress in a speech for the bill, “but if you launder your money through a front company with anonymous ownership there is very little we can do to stop you.”
We know the Trump family uses shell companies: Trump’s fixer Michael Cohen used a shell company to pay off Stormy Daniels, and just this month we learned that Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner approved a shell company that spent more than $600 million in campaign funds.
The new requirements in the NDAA apply not just to future entities, but also to existing ones.
Congress needs to repass the NDAA over Trump’s veto—indeed it is likely that the CTA was included in this measure precisely because the NDAA is must-pass legislation—and both the CTA and the NDAA bill into which is it tucked have bipartisan support. But will Trump sign the NDAA if it contains a provision that undercuts shell companies? Or will congressional Republicans take the CTA out of the must-pass NDAA?"
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Re: DJT 2k motives
He hates the damned GOP because they grew a spine and dared to speak truth to power, so he's working them over with the only tools at his disposal. Basically he's damned with anyone in sight who he thinks betrayed him, including the American people whom he now sees as his enemy, and also issuing pardons as the final Screw you to the world.
I have no idea how to explain McConnell's BS block on the bill. I don't intend to derail here, but someone please tell me what that is about because I can't keep up with who is damned who and why right now.
I have no idea how to explain McConnell's BS block on the bill. I don't intend to derail here, but someone please tell me what that is about because I can't keep up with who is damned who and why right now.
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the last round of checks ended up with his name on them as he was buying votes. Remember, Trump doesn't actually hold many of the conservative values of his peers, he's an opportunist. He also doesn't care what happens to the world after he dies. Whatever it takes to keep him in power, famous, and wealthy until his end. He'll become a liberal tomorrow if it will make him famous and keep him in power.
But, in this case, I'll have to go with Cam, that it was sheer impulsiveness and god knows from there. Doing it when he did could indicate he was pissed at the people because he lost. It could be a lot of things.
But, in this case, I'll have to go with Cam, that it was sheer impulsiveness and god knows from there. Doing it when he did could indicate he was pissed at the people because he lost. It could be a lot of things.
We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have. They get rid of some of the people who have been there for 25 years and they work great and then you throw them out and they're replaced by criminals.
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Well. A cluster “F” is a cluster “F” for a reason.
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I think the cluster “F” is the whole point.
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Re: DJT 2k motives
my speculation is that it is to prop up the value of the USD.dantana wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:19 amDoes anyone have any insight into why the Don is pushing for the upgraded $2k for his fellow Americans. As we all know, the man does nothing, for anyone, unless there is a chunk of change attached to it earmarked for him. What is his game? I know the man is stupid, but I believe he actually knows the game is up, so therefor he would have no need to further woo his followers.
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Re: DJT 2k motives
Trump is raising money off of this charade, because his followers are easy to dupe.dantana wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:19 amDoes anyone have any insight into why the Don is pushing for the upgraded $2k for his fellow Americans. As we all know, the man does nothing, for anyone, unless there is a chunk of change attached to it earmarked for him. What is his game? I know the man is stupid, but I believe he actually knows the game is up, so therefor he would have no need to further woo his followers.
From an article by Steve Benen of MSNBC:
The timeline unfolded quickly: Congress approved the relief package on Monday; Trump denounced it as a "disgrace" on Tuesday; and the president's political operation told donors that Trump "sent the Covid Relief Bill BACK to Congress" on Wednesday.
Except, of course, that wasn't true. The president hadn't sent the bill back, and four days after the fundraising appeal reached donors, Trump actually signed the measure into law.
But donors saw the opposite message. "This bill is a DISGRACE," the president's written fundraising letter read. "It's called the Covid Relief Bill, but it has almost nothing to do with Covid, and it provides minimal relief for the American People.... I'm calling on my most fierce and loyal supporters to take action and STAND WITH ME in DEMANDING Congress rework this bill. Can I count on your support?"
The text is accompanied by a series of links in which unsuspecting Republicans could show their "support" for Trump by sending him their money.
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subs, how much did you send Trump to help him support the value of the dollar?
We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have. They get rid of some of the people who have been there for 25 years and they work great and then you throw them out and they're replaced by criminals.