And that is exactly why every single Trump supporter is part of the dumbest damned cult in American history, but a cult nonetheless. You have to be a mindless drone to think Trump is your hero. Dumb as a damned rock.Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:13 amThis guy. is. slap. out of. his mind.
The quotes in the articles do NOT do justice to this phone call. He's a raving loon. Pulled every trick out of his narcissist playbook. I would HATE to be in the room when this guy is rage yelling at staff.
Holee sheet.
How Trump thinks "democracy" works
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Religion is for people whose existential fear is greater than their common sense.
The god idea is popular with desperate people.
The god idea is popular with desperate people.
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Did you listen to the 1 hour video?Some Schmo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:23 amAnd that is exactly why every single Trump supporter is part of the dumbest damned cult in American history, but a cult nonetheless. You have to be a mindless drone to think Trump is your hero. Dumb as a damned rock.Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:13 amThis guy. is. slap. out of. his mind.
The quotes in the articles do NOT do justice to this phone call. He's a raving loon. Pulled every trick out of his narcissist playbook. I would HATE to be in the room when this guy is rage yelling at staff.
Holee sheet.
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Oh, then Ms. Ipsa must like and appreciate primary sources like I do. I want to hear it straight from the horses mouth. He was unrelenting throughout the entire call. Shifting tactics rapidly---shaming, threatening, gas lighting, basically raging/hammering away at Raffensperger and then intermittently addressing his flying monkey (I can't recall who she was at the moment) bringing her in to reinforce everything.Res Ipsa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:19 amMs. Ipsa listened to the whole thing. She agrees with you 100%.Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:13 amThis guy. is. slap. out of. his mind.
The quotes in the articles do NOT do justice to this phone call. He's a raving loon. Pulled every trick out of his narcissist playbook. I would HATE to be in the room when this guy is rage yelling at staff.
Holee sheet.
Tossing out figure after figure, number after number but when it got right down to it, he always resorted to "won by a lot" or "times a lot". Always vague in that regard.
My god that man is a publicly available study in narcissist rage. There was an account I read, probably from Cohen's book, where he berated his sons for the trophy hunting photos they had taken and published. They must've been scared out of their ever loving minds when he leaned into it. Also when Don Jr. wanted to join the military (Army reserves?) he and Ivana had a come to Jesus meeting with him and told him if he did that, he (Don Jr.) would be completely disowned and disinherited. He must have been total hell as a father.
Like his own father.
But I am here to tell you, Raffensperger did an amazing job of keeping his cool. I picture him sitting there with the phone pulled away from his ear, rolling his eyes, while waiting for Trump to pause so he could reply to him. A lesser being would have been cowering off in a corner.
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o_OJersey Girl wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:13 amThis guy. is. slap. out of. his mind.
The quotes in the articles do NOT do justice to this phone call. He's a raving loon. Pulled every trick out of his narcissist playbook. I would HATE to be in the room when this guy is rage yelling at staff.
Holee sheet.
I’m only 6 minutes in and ... Lolmygawwwd.
Trump: “They weren't in an official voter box, but they were in what looked to be suitcases or trunks, suitcases but they weren't in voter boxes. The minimum number it could be because we watched it and they watched it certified in slow motion instant replay if you can believe it but slow motion and it was magnified many times over and the minimum it was 18,000 ballots, all for Biden.”
Sure. They ‘magnified’ it “many times over”, yet mysteriously could not recognize that they were looking at the standard bins (clearly visible on a phone screen) while simultaneously being able to see through the bins and into the stacks to get a ballot count and identify that Biden was the selection on every one of them.
Holy Crap, how does anyone not just stand up, be the voice of reason in service to the nation, and ask this moron to sit down and shut the “F” up?
Can’t we just give him and his supporters their ‘participation prize’ already, and get this sad snowflake show headed out the door to Mar-a-Lago?

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Try to finish the whole call, canpakes. Try to keep up with his meandering raving straw grasping narrative.
I dare you to try to keep up with it and make any sense of it! It's like narcissist word salad machine gun style!
I dare you to try to keep up with it and make any sense of it! It's like narcissist word salad machine gun style!

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ETA: He's dickering over a thousand here and thousands there when he lost by MILLIONS. Notice how he tries to gaslight by threatening that he has bigger numbers coming than what he's quoting during the call. He's freakout level desperate.
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I listened to the whole telephone call too. What an idiot he is! I don't think much of the intelligence of his cohorts who were with him on the call either. The longer this travesty continues, the more fantastic and tragic it is that as many as 74 million people were somehow conned into voting for him.
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One thing you can say for Trump is that he is a master at lying. He has no scruples to ever interfere with his lying. That proves he is no RINO.
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I'm 20mins into this and I'm exhausted.
Trump goes on a massive 10min rant about old, debunked fraud.
People carefully try to explain to him that there is no election fraud in Georgia.
Trump starts repeating same crap.
People explain he is wrong.
Repeat.
Jhesus it's like having a phone call with a child.
30mins into it now.
Trump started insulting the people on the call because they won't believe him. According to him he has MASSIVE numbers of fraud, but the Georgia Sec-State and his office does not.
What is Trump thinking here?
Does he think he can convince the Sec-State without also sending him the numbers Trump so blatantly claim to possess?
What the actual “F” is the game plan here?
31:16
Georgia Sec-State: "Mr. President the problem that you have with social media, they can... People can say.."
Trump: "Nah this isn't social media, this is Trump media."
Lol this man is legit pulling this crap out of fringe news and calling it Trump media, much more legit than social media.
I had to take a break here. I feel so bad for the people who have to work with this guy. How can someone be able to listen to this day in and out?
After ~30mins Trump really starts railing.
They are talking about auditors and investigators looking into the fraud, and the Georgia Sec-State offices people "don't want to find anything, you know they don't want to find anything, everybody knows, you know."
Trump is really angry that "his people" weren't allowed into the Fulton county. The county is 44% black and went 72.6% to Biden on the 2020 election, I just looked it up.
42:50:
Trump: "I have to find 12'000 votes, and I have them times... a lot! And therefore I won the state".
Apparently he has found these votes several times after looking at the fraud, and the Georgia Sec-States office won't give him the win. The Georgia Sec-State has absolutely no idea wtf he is talking about. Trump is growing increasingly frustrated that they won't accept his fraud allegations.
45:00:
They are talking about a woman named bleep
Trump: "Every single ballot that she threw in the machine, at early early in the morning, went to biden."
Trump: "Did you know that Ryan?"
Ryan: "That's not accurate mister President".
Trump: "huh... What is accurate?"
'awkward silence'
The best awkward silence in a high level political call I have ever heard.
It's so good look it up it's amazing, I'm going mad.
Trump's frustration is getting going now, after 45:00 I think we can call this the "meltdown" phase.
Some quips:
"Reexamine it with people who want to find answers, not people who don't want to find answers."
"I know this phone call is going nowhere, other than... other than... ultimately, you know... Look, ultimately, I win!"
Past 54mins now.
Adults are having a conversation and Trump is quiet for a minute. Talking about illegal votes and possible avenues to investigate and clear these up. The "numbers" are constantly being mentioned and for a brief moment the office of Georgia Sec-State and the Oval Office is actually having a conversation.
Trump haven't said anything in almost a minute, and blurts: "CERTIFIED ACCOUNTANTS LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS!"
The adult conversation is interrupted and does not get picked up properly again.
58:10:
They are talking about signature verification on ballots in Fulton county. This was mentioned earlier in the call, and how the Oval Office wanted to compare signatures on 2020 ballots to 2016 ballots or earlier.
Someone on Trump's team is speaking:
"Mister President, to get through this issue of personal information and privacy issue, is it possible that the secretary of state could deputize the lawyers of the president so that we could access that private information without you having any kind of violation".
Trump: "Well I don't wanna know who it is, you guys can do it very confidentially, you can sign a confidentiality agreement, that's ok, I don't need to know names"
Sounds like trying to bypass privacy laws to me, I don't know much about it. They did resolve that 2 people should get together after the call and work on this avenue.
I like that Trump could smell something shady and immediately jumped on board that he does not need to know names. The man sure can smell out a specific turd in a pile of crap.
And the call is done.
I missed a lot of good stuff that was both depressing, hilarious, shady and downright pathetic. My mind is getting a bit mushy.