From the MA&D house: LDS have no respect at funerals

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Re: From the MA&D house: LDS have no respect at funerals

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I think he should share the talk from the october General Conference about what happens when we die. Non-mormons believe they will see their loved ones when they die, but that is not true. Only Mormons will see their loved ones in the next life.


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Re: From the MA&D house: LDS have no respect at funerals

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harmony wrote:Did you read Jason's response?

I did.

harmony wrote:And have you read BKP's talk on funerals? (I'm sure you have).

I have.

I've also read LeSellers's thread on the board formerly known as FAIR, and, in my judgment, the opening post here mischaracterizes it (and the responses to it) in egregious ways.

harmony wrote:Hang the missionary effort.

I'm assuming that you haven't read the thread that the opening post here has so grossly misrepresented. In doing so, it has set this thread here off very much on the wrong foot.

harmony wrote:And if anyone puts that @#$%^ veil on me, I'll rise up and smite them!)

Just one more aspect of Mormonism that you reject.
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DCP wrote:I'm assuming that you haven't read the thread that the opening post here has so grossly misrepresented. In doing so, it has set this thread here off very much on the wrong foot.




She can't read it. She doesn't have access to MAD. When they banned her, they blocked her IP address. I've offered to show her how to tunnel in :twisted: , but she has too much integrity to do that.
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liz3564 wrote:She can't read it. She doesn't have access to MAD. When they banned her, they blocked her IP address. I've offered to show her how to tunnel in :twisted: , but she has too much integrity to do that.

Then that's a problem for her.

But it doesn't affect what I said, which was a comment on LeTeller's thread.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:
harmony wrote:And if anyone puts that @#$%^ veil on me, I'll rise up and smite them!)

Just one more aspect of Mormonism that you reject.


Not one more. They're almost all connected. Polygamy is connected to the temple ceremony which is connected to the veil which is connected to the patronization and marginalization of women which is connected to the lack of respect given to women which is connected to the basic reason I am so disappointed in the church.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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harmony wrote:Not one more. They're almost all connected. Polygamy is connected to the temple ceremony which is connected to the veil which is connected to the patronization and marginalization of women which is connected to the lack of respect given to women which is connected to the basic reason I am so disappointed in the church.

You've pretty well made my point, which is that you are not a typical rank-and-file member of the Church, and that you really aren't Mormon in any meaningful sense any more.
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collegeterrace wrote:LeSellers comes on and brags about his service to some poor old man who had converted two years ago, and died a few days ago from natural caused linked to what he calls a hard life.

Then he asks what he should say at the funeral, knowing full well that most in attendance do not agree with the LDS world view.

Basically asking how he can use this as a missionary moment.

The responses are soooo mo'typical.

http://www.mormonapologetics.org/index. ... opic=40207

Well, my advice wasn't quite as you suggested, then again I am not LDS, I don't know that it should have been.

Recently in our area, which is the rural South USA 'Bible belt area'. A family that had the LDS Father die had his funeral. His wife was Baptist. Contrary to some sound advice to avoid an opportunity to witness and focus on the the family, that my LDS Uncle had given the Stake Pres...... The Stake Pres. disregarded it.

Sadly, people walked out of the funeral due to what they felt was highly offensive.

I personally don't think a funeral is the place to portray the "Restored" Gospel in a multi-faith audience.
Unless you are Glenn Beck, because he could do it in a cool way that didn't piss anybody off.

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Re: From the MA&D house: LDS have no respect at funerals

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Bishop Dan-o Peterson wrote:
harmony wrote:Not one more. They're almost all connected. Polygamy is connected to the temple ceremony which is connected to the veil which is connected to the patronization and marginalization of women which is connected to the lack of respect given to women which is connected to the basic reason I am so disappointed in the church.

You've pretty well made my point, which is that you are not a typical rank-and-file member of the Church,
Wow, Bishop Dan-o has just informed us all that harmony is not a CHAPEL Mormon. But he does not stop there, no no, he stoops lower in his usual un-Christlike behavior, to show how a true Mormon treats others...
Bishop Dan-o Peterson wrote:and that you really aren't Mormon in any meaningful sense any more.
So then BISHOP, please do tell, ENLIGHTEN us with your bishoPRIC insight as to how a meaningful Mormon show behave.

Like you?
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DCP wrote:You've pretty well made my point, which is that you are not a typical rank-and-file member of the Church, and that you really aren't Mormon in any meaningful sense any more.


Hold on, Daniel. Define "typical rank and file member of the Church". I certainly wouldn't put you in that category. There are aspects of doctrinal theory that you openly disagree with from your peers. That far from marginalizes you, or makes you a less meaningful Mormon than any other member.

Just because Harmony has problems with aspects of the gospel doesn't mean that she isn't a meaningful member of the Church. A lot of members have problems with polygamy, myself included.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:You've pretty well made my point, which is that you are not a typical rank-and-file member of the Church, and that you really aren't Mormon in any meaningful sense any more.


Another reason to thank God every day that you are not my bishop.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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