Mormon Apologists: What's left? or, what's next?

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Re: Mormon Apologists: What's left? or, what's next?

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To draw a comparison from history, I think that if we judge from the examples on this board it would seem that they are more or less at this stage:

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The word being shouted here by General Cambronne at the English troops demanding his surrender was said to have been 'merde'.

But maybe he didn't even manage that ...
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Re: Mormon Apologists: What's left? or, what's next?

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bcspace wrote:Virtually every critcism of the Church has been explained, debunked, or rendered valueless by Mormon Apologetics in the intellectualy honest sense. All that remains is to repeat ourselves ad infinitum in response to the same old chestnuts until you guys can come up with something new and unrecycled.



bcspace,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw6ndZNLYUA&feature=related
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Re: Mormon Apologists: What's left? or, what's next?

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To take an example from history, I think that from the examples on this board they are more or less at this stage…

LoL! I think you give those poseurs way too much credit. Perhaps Custer at the Little Big Horn...
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Re: Mormon Apologists: What's left? or, what's next?

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bcspace wrote:Virtually every critcism of the Church has been explained, debunked, or rendered valueless by Mormon Apologetics in the intellectualy honest sense. All that remains is to repeat ourselves ad infinitum in response to the same old chestnuts until you guys can come up with something new and unrecycled.

Virtually every? That suggests that you think there are some, albeit few in number, criticisms that have not been explained, debunked, or rendered. In the vein of what the OP was asking for, please list these unanswered criticisms for us. Thank you.
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Re: Mormon Apologists: What's left? or, what's next?

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Drifting wrote:I think the two next Mopologetic traumas will be how to explain how the Church was never against same sex marriages and how the Church always intended giving the women the Priestesshood.

What do you anticipate the outlines of their Mopologetic dance will be in their efforts to explain away their doctrinal stances against same sex marriages and women having the priesthood.
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Re: Mormon Apologists: What's left? or, what's next?

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Chap wrote:To draw a comparison from history, I think that if we judge from the examples on this board it would seem that they are more or less at this stage:

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The word being shouted here by General Cambronne at the English troops demanding his surrender was said to have been 'merde'.

But maybe he didn't even manage that ...

But Chap, do you think that NAMIRS/FAIR has succeeded already in removing all the falsifiable parts of Mormon claims? I think Mopologetics has only just begun.
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Re: Mopologists: What's left? or, what's next?

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Chap wrote:(I wonder how Belmont thinks that words get into dictionaries?)


Yes, Chap, it is in a collaborative dictionary in which you just added the made-up word.

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Darth J wrote:Whereas "Internet anti-Mormonism" is a real term, with a precise definition, that does not vary from one proponent of the Church to the next.


I'm sorry that you don't know what the term Internet means, DJ, but I can't say it surprises me. Here are a couple of starting places, so that you can get up to speed with the rest of humanity:

http://www.walthowe.com/navnet/history.html
http://www.davesite.com/webstation/net-history1.shtml

I'm sorry that you don't know what the prefix anti means, DJ, but I can't say it surprises me. Here are a couple of starting places, so that you can get up to speed with the rest of humanity:

http://www.virtualsalt.com/roots.htm (look about half-way down the page)

Perhaps Chap wrote this next link, with his known interest in the collaborative Wiktionary, it would not surprise me:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/anti-

I'm sorry that you don't know what the term Mormon means, DJ, but I can't say it surprises me. Here are a couple of starting places, so that you can get up to speed with the rest of humanity:

http://www.Mormon.org
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Mormon

I hope these will help you better understand some of the basic words people use.
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Re: Mopologists: What's left? or, what's next?

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Simon Belmont wrote:
Darth J wrote:Whereas "Internet anti-Mormonism" is a real term, with a precise definition, that does not vary from one proponent of the Church to the next.


I'm sorry that you don't know what the term Internet means, DJ, but I can't say it surprises me. Here are a couple of starting places, so that you can get up to speed with the rest of humanity:

http://www.walthowe.com/navnet/history.html
http://www.davesite.com/webstation/net-history1.shtml

I'm sorry that you don't know what the prefix anti means, DJ, but I can't say it surprises me. Here are a couple of starting places, so that you can get up to speed with the rest of humanity:

http://www.virtualsalt.com/roots.htm (look about hald-way down the page)

Perhaps Chap wrote this next link, with his known interest in the collaborative Wiktionary, it would not surprise me:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/anti-

I'm sorry that you don't know what the term Mormon means, DJ, but I can't say it surprises me. Here are a couple of starting places, so that you can get up to speed with the rest of humanity:

http://www.Mormon.org
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Mormon

I hope these will help you better understand some of the basic words people use.


Is it pretty standard when you are taking graduate-level courses in philosophy for people not to understand that taking disparate words and combining them creates a unique terminology apart from the etymology of the component words?
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Re: Mopologists: What's left? or, what's next?

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Darth J wrote:Is it pretty standard when you are taking graduate-level courses in philosophy for people not to understand that taking disparate words and combining them creates a unique terminology apart from the etymology of the component words?


In that case, please define:

Mo

Pologist
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Re: Mormon Apologists: What's left? or, what's next?

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I think it makes Jesus cry to know that Simon Belmont thinks the stuff he posts is clever.

Jesus would probably cry even more if he had been raped trillions of times in His vagina.
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