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Re: CALL FOR MODERATORS

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Sledge wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:41 pm
Dr Moore wrote:
You can discover information about host networks, depending on the situation, which can identify an individual's employer and significantly winnow down the pool of candidates for a sufficiently motivated defender of the kingdom. It's been done before and I'm betting you know that. Also, your weak technical defense that somehow an individual's IP address is always harmless information is either intentionally misleading or grossly ignorant. I don't think you operate like an ignorant person, so I'm going with misleading. But either way, I trust you less as this weird moderator campaign goes on.
My IP is owned by Comcast. I guess you could then assume I work for Comcast, but that would be a silly assumption since Comcast provides a large percentage of public IPs to their clients. Comcast probably owns several million IP addresses. Really narrowing it down there!

So you're wrong. But thanks for playing. Unfortunately I don't have a door prize.

What I do have is a commitment to be the best damn moderator you've ever had, and I only ask for a 90 day trial!
I've already told you how it can be used and you totally ignored both my post and my points.
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Re: CALL FOR MODERATORS

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:42 pm
Sledge wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:54 pm


You cannot discover personal information from an IP address. You can discover the originating ISP and sometimes the general geographic area, but that's it.

Here's my current IP:

73.23.140.87

Go to town.



There's a surprise.
Um, yeah, no. Based on that move alone, I would never endorse you as a moderator here. Maybe unless you quit grandstanding over a long period of time. Otherwise, no.
Because I posted an IP address that will likely change tomorrow? Is that grandstanding? I was only attempting to show how IP addresses are meaningless.

Look, I've been the victim of doxxing attempts. It's not a joke. I take privacy very seriously. As a moderator I would have no reason to need an IP address, and even if I looked at one there is nothing I could or would do with it.
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Re: CALL FOR MODERATORS

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Sledge wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:41 pm
What I do have is a commitment to be the best damn moderator you've ever had, and I only ask for a 90 day trial!
You keep saying that. Over and over and over.
Shulem wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:49 pm
Something to that effect crossed my mind too, namely internal board sabotage.

A crazy man with a nail on the end of a stick can poke a lot of tires in one night.
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Sledge wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:54 pm
Dr Moore wrote: How easy it would be for Sledge to share IP addresses with interested parties, which has actually been done on other boards to in order for Mopologists to identify places of employment and ultimately a near bullseye identification of people who are now active at this very board today. Again, I don't trust Sledge and personally I would be taking more extreme opsec measures to participate here if he is assigned moderator privileges.
You cannot discover personal information from an IP address. You can discover the originating ISP and sometimes the general geographic area, but that's it.

Here's my current IP:

73.23.140.87

Go to town.
Lem wrote:the aggressive campaigning bothers me too. I agree with your assessment.
There's a surprise.
Do you live in Bonita Springs, Florida?

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Re: CALL FOR MODERATORS

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:57 pm
Sledge wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:54 pm


You cannot discover personal information from an IP address. You can discover the originating ISP and sometimes the general geographic area, but that's it.

Here's my current IP:

73.23.140.87

Go to town.



There's a surprise.
Do you live in Bonita Springs, Florida?

- Doc
LOL, no. That’s the crazy thing about IPs. I’m also on a VPN.
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Re: CALL FOR MODERATORS

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Dr Moore wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:23 pm
How easy it would be for Sledge to share IP addresses with interested parties, which has actually been done on other boards to in order for Mopologists to identify places of employment and ultimately a near bullseye identification of people who are now active at this very board today. Again, I don't trust Sledge and personally I would be taking more extreme opsec measures to participate here if he is assigned moderator privileges.
Mopologist have done this? And Sledge, who is desperate to be a moderator here, even for just 90 DAYS!, is online friends with Peterson, has outstanding posts attacking Shades on SeN, and has referred to board members here as anti-Mormon bigots. Only after his posts were exposed, he apologized and said he was just 'trolling' Shades.

Yes, that's a vote of no confidence from me, too.
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Four posters have volunteered.
Only one is campaigning.
Less is more, I say. Less is more.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:21 pm
Four posters have volunteered.
Only one is campaigning.
Less is more, I say. Less is more.
And those three may each have an implicit bias against the CofJCofLDS to some extent or another. Unless they are superhuman and able to compartmentalize without exercising preferential treatment, they should not be allowed as moderators either. How is that to be entertained or measured?

At the end of the day, the ‘majority rules’ operational mode will probably affix itself to whatever decision is made.

I think Sledge should be given a trial period…along with the other three candidates…to prove himself (theirselves) to the satisfaction of the community. But to let a few, yet the majority, loud voices rule the day would be unfortunate, in my opinion.

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Re: CALL FOR MODERATORS

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Sledge wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:41 pm
Dr Moore wrote:
You can discover information about host networks, depending on the situation, which can identify an individual's employer and significantly winnow down the pool of candidates for a sufficiently motivated defender of the kingdom. It's been done before and I'm betting you know that. Also, your weak technical defense that somehow an individual's IP address is always harmless information is either intentionally misleading or grossly ignorant. I don't think you operate like an ignorant person, so I'm going with misleading. But either way, I trust you less as this weird moderator campaign goes on.
My IP is owned by Comcast. I guess you could then assume I work for Comcast, but that would be a silly assumption since Comcast provides a large percentage of public IPs to their clients. Comcast probably owns several million IP addresses. Really narrowing it down there!

So you're wrong. But thanks for playing. Unfortunately I don't have a door prize.

What I do have is a commitment to be the best damn moderator you've ever had, and I only ask for a 90 day trial!
Keep digging. A residential Comcast IP is one thing. But you're wrong, sir, and you're lying now. Some businesses, as well as government and academic institutions, are identifiable by IP addresses. I'm sure you know this. Nice straw man attempt. My vote is officially "No" on Sledge.
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Re: CALL FOR MODERATORS

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Lem wrote:Mopologists have done this? And Sledge, who is desperate to be a moderator here, even for just 90 DAYS!, is online friends with Peterson, has outstanding posts attacking Shades on SeN, and has referred to board members here as anti-Mormon bigots. Only after his posts were exposed, he apologized and said he was just 'trolling' Shades.

Yes, that's a vote of no confidence from me, too.
No one has done this, because it’s literally impossible.
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