In 2013 Russell M. Nelson opened a stake in Armenia, what happened next?

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Re: In 2013 Russell M. Nelson opened a stake in Armenia, what happened next?

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pistolero wrote:
Not sure if people really needed any preparation to open a manual or scriptures when house bound.

I would have prefered he could have forseen the internet connectivity issues in less developed nations so they wouldn't be so isolated while at home.
Take it up with god, dude.
Healthier people were/are less likely to suffer from severe COVID symptoms.
You leap from "taking vitamins" to people being healthier. I think the most recent wisdom on this is infact that many vitamin supplements have been shown to potentially cause more long term damage than any health benefits.

Also, not sure it has been shown to be causal that high vitamin D levels due to supplements have improved outcomes. There was the famous Spanish study on this that was withdrawn weeks after being published.

Seems that obesity is one of the major risk factors. Has Russell M. Nelson spoken about this in preparation for the pandemic? Seems like it would be good advice. I love a coke as much as the next man, but one of the more unfortunate unintended consequences of the Mormon law of health is how people depend on caffeinated sodas instead of potentially more healthy beverages such as green tea for example.


One thing I will give a bit of kudos for is the church's official message on vaccination. Well done Russell M. Nelson.
Of course he (and I) did not mean literally take vitamins. I suspect you knew that, but are trying to discover potshots and sucker punches wherever you can.
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consiglieri wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:57 pm
Sledge wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:07 pm
Your opinion is noted. Wrong, but noted.

Do you need help finding out where your ward meets this Sunday?
I just hope it isn’t in Armenia.
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Sledge wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:50 pm
dastardly stem wrote:
How is saying home-centered church a prophecy? Can you detail the prophecy aspect of this move?
Like I said, Russell M. Nelson may not have fully understood what was happening, but reducing church to two hours and preparing people from home-centered worship and education was a great way to prepare people from being home full-time because of the upcoming pandemic.[/qote]

What would be the difference in he did not say home-centered and let people cut it to 2 fours? How do you know believers wouldn't have been better off if he didn't say home-centered and let them cut it 2 hours?
Still feels like you're joking. As I recall his eat your vitamins comment was nor a literal instruction. And could there be healthier people who do not take vitamins then some who do?
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He forgot to add that their numbers might become smaller, because of wickedness. Elder Cook must have been absent that weekend or he'd have given Nelson the assist.
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dastardly stem wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:02 pm
What would be the difference in he did not say home-centered and let people cut it to 2 fours? How do you know believers wouldn't have been better off if he didn't say home-centered and let them cut it 2 hours?
Still feels like you're joking. As I recall his eat your vitamins comment was nor a literal instruction. And could there be healthier people who do not take vitamins then some who do?
Certainly you can ponder on these things yourself without me leading you from point a to b to c.
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Sledge wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:24 pm
2) “Take your vitamins.”
The reason Russell M. Nelson said that is because the 'church' has billions invested in big pharma stocks.
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Sledge wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:48 pm
dastardly stem wrote:
Did the stake stand? Have any stakes been added?

What's the matter? You don't like IHAQ?
I love IHAQ, they have amazing strawberry-banana French toast.

But they create clickbait threads that have no real substance.
A failed prophecy is something having no real substance. Well then, if and when he ever has a prophecy fulfilled I expect total silence from you...
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Sledge wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:24 pm
Dr Exiled wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:12 pm


Yes, but at some point there should be some prophecy that comes true. Russell M. Nelson claims he is a prophet but rarely gives us a prophecy and I don't know of any that have come to pass. Also, Russell M. Nelson and his fellow court jesters love to couch whatever they do in nebulous "if it be God's will" language so they can win with any outcome. IHAQ is merely pointing out more of the same nonsense that happens with these self-proclaimed prophets.
If I give you two, will I see you at church on Sunday?

1) Home-centered church. Maybe he didn’t know exactly why, but he was inspired to shorten church and make it more home centered. This was right before the pandemic.

2) “Take your vitamins.”
:roll: oh gawd.... so generic, so banal and so unprophetic. Had he bothered to warn about a world wide plague? THAT would have been a prophecy. Of course, you know this. Your milktoast expectation of prophets is perfectly equal with their own milktoast knowledge of the future.
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Sledge wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:02 pm
consiglieri wrote:
I just hope it isn’t in Armenia.
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IHAQ,

My brother served a mission in Busan, Korea from 1984-86. He spent 13 months in Kimcheon, a small town located in the middle of the country.

Fast forward 34 years later and in 2018 our families traveled together for the Winter Olympics. My brother was very excited to see how Kimcheon had grown.

Imagine his disappointment when we arrived at the branch on Sunday and there were 7 people, not including us and the 4 missionaries.

The Church is really struggling with the lack of growth and retaining members. I expect it to get much worse, and the membership to get much smaller.
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